Debating on Three different Tires

[jadmt]

If you do gravel roads the ko3 and at4w (based on the at3w) are stone magnets.

 

[Astro14]

It doesn’t meet the criteria of what I want they don’t have it in my size that’s the criteria.the 3MPFS. Is a self certification just like M+S so I don’t go by that. Thats why I have my top three. any tire that claims good year around abilities has to have some give and take. Like great on dry but weak on wet and steady on snow and ice. The most well balanced tire in the three that I mentioned is what I am researching. I am not interested in Mickey’s, Nitto, Toyo, or any other brand just the three that I mentioned.

I understand - I have the Nokian nAT in 275/60R20 on my Tundra. Part of the reason that I bought them is their snow performance. Independent testing showed it to be the best AT for snow performance. I’ve had the BFGs in snow, and they’re OK for an AT, but they fall far short of a winter tire while the Nokian are pretty close to a winter tire. Before you look at my address and wonder what I know about snow, I used to live in Vermont, Canada, and Colorado. Still have a car in Colorado that has a set of Blizzaks for winter, Michelins for 3 seasons. I have had many sets of Nokian tires. Their Hakapellitta snow tires are simply the best, for example, but their “all weather” tires are quite impressive in snow for a tire that isn’t a dedicated winter tire. The nAT have been great so far.

 

[Fishstyx]

I understand - I have the Nokian nAT in 275/60R20 on my Tundra. Part of the reason that I bought them is their snow performance. Independent testing showed it to be the best AT for snow performance. I’ve had the BFGs in snow, and they’re OK for an AT, but they fall far short of a winter tire while the Nokian are pretty close to a winter tire. Before you look at my address and wonder what I know about snow, I used to live in Vermont, Canada, and Colorado. Still have a car in Colorado that has a set of Blizzaks for winter, Michelins for 3 seasons. I have had many sets of Nokian tires. Their Hakapellitta snow tires are simply the best, for example, but their “all weather” tires are quite impressive in snow for a tire that isn’t a dedicated winter tire. The nAT have been great so far.

I am not saying they are a bad tire. They don’t make them in my size. I cannot put them on my wheels even if I wanted to. You’re point is moot. It’s like you’re trying to convince a diabetic to eat sugar.

 

[Astro14]

My point wasn’t just for your eyes only.

I am not saying they are a bad tire. They don’t make them in my size. I cannot put them on my wheels even if I wanted to. Your point is moot. It’s like you’re trying to convince a diabetic to eat sugar.

453 people have viewed this thread, and because they might benefit from a different alternative, I made my post.

 

[jadmt]

It doesn’t meet the criteria of what I want they don’t have it in my size that’s the criteria.the 3MPFS. Is a self certification just like M+S so I don’t go by that. Thats why I have my top three. any tire that claims good year around abilities has to have some give and take. Like great on dry but weak on wet and steady on snow and ice. The most well balanced tire in the three that I mentioned is what I am researching. I am not interested in Mickey’s, Nitto, Toyo, or any other brand just the three that I mentioned.

what size are you looking at? again I have had KO3, at3w (very similar to at4w altho many like the at3w better) and duratracs. 2020 Ram 2500 powerwagon so lighter of course than a cummins but still heavy.

 

[barkingspider]

1. Duratrac
2. KO3
3. I don’t like Falken

 

[userfriendly]

Maybe add a few tires to your list.
Nitto EXOs (White, GA)

Toyo CTs (White, GA)

Yokohama GO 17 HD
Toyo M655 and M55
Falken 3s instead of 4s

 

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

All three are good options. As is the Nokian.

The General Grabber ATX is surprisingly competent in the snow, for what it’s worth. I’d actually say one of the best in class.

Toyo AT III is quite good too.

 

[robbobster]

Theres also a new Yokohama - snow rated, geolandar G018 AT4. It’s a more basic design but it’s replacing the G015, supposedly quiet, the predecessor G015 was great in the rain, and it’s 3-peak rated, and doesn’t come with all the vanity sidewall stuff.

I run P-metric 33” G015s on my wife’s mall cruiser. It’s a great tire, with the comfort and quietness of a car tire, and really good in poor weather.

If the G018 is better, I’ll consider them next

 

[meep]

I run P-metric 33” G015s on my wife’s mall cruiser. It’s a great tire, with the comfort and quietness of a car tire, and really good in poor weather.

If the G018 is better, I’ll consider them next

Most of the reviews so far are on the LT sizes, as they came out first. The LT reviews naturally aren’t as favorable in some areas because of the harder compounds. I’ve also read some excellent forum experiences with the G018, but not enough of them to have a solid bead on them. I agree, the G015 was an excellent tire.

 

[robbobster]

Most of the reviews so far are on the LT sizes, as they came out first. The LT reviews naturally aren’t as favorable in some areas because of the harder compounds. I’ve also read some excellent forum experiences with the G018, but not enough of them to have a solid bead on them. I agree, the G015 was an excellent tire.

Yeah there’s also weight to consider. I typically like MT tires for off-roading (heavier carcass), but got “a deal I couldn’t refuse” on some P-Metric ATs.

Went from a 33” MT KM3 to a 33” (285/79-17) Cooper AT3 4S …and saved a whopping 24 lbs. per tire.

That’s a huge difference that the driver can absolutely feel in any type of driving.