GM bulk oil to dealerships (AC-Delco) is made for GM by Mobil. Synthetic blend yes. Its not bad.
dealer does not recomend going to synthetic
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I wonder if they parrot the synth oil myths so "just in case" something happens,they won't get blamed?
Originally Posted By: Luis_G
It's correct to say the bulk oil is cheaper. One of our customers said it costs the Ford dealer he worked for about $1 per quart for conventional.
Bulk oil is not cheaper. It cost the dealership ABOUT the same per quart that you can get it at Wal-Mart in the 5 quart jugs. The reason they have it is for convenience. It is delivered right to them and it is easier/faster to use bulk oil than bottled oil.
It's correct to say the bulk oil is cheaper. One of our customers said it costs the Ford dealer he worked for about $1 per quart for conventional.
Bulk oil is not cheaper. It cost the dealership ABOUT the same per quart that you can get it at Wal-Mart in the 5 quart jugs. The reason they have it is for convenience. It is delivered right to them and it is easier/faster to use bulk oil than bottled oil.
Originally Posted By: Scum_Frog
I would be looking for a new service department.
If they are that highly uneducated on the basics of motor oil, can you imagine what other critical knowledge they are lacking on items that are actually complex within your vehicle.
It's time to demand more for what we are paying these guys!
it's not about not knowing. It's about the cost and hassle to get your special oil in thru their oil change operation quickly. They just don't want the hassle so they basically lie to you and hope you fall for it. IMO, free oil changes are worth about as much as they cost you....nothing.
I would be looking for a new service department.
If they are that highly uneducated on the basics of motor oil, can you imagine what other critical knowledge they are lacking on items that are actually complex within your vehicle.
It's time to demand more for what we are paying these guys!
it's not about not knowing. It's about the cost and hassle to get your special oil in thru their oil change operation quickly. They just don't want the hassle so they basically lie to you and hope you fall for it. IMO, free oil changes are worth about as much as they cost you....nothing.
Originally Posted By: aimatdeer
Hello everyone, wondered what you guys thought. I have a 2014 chevy silverado with a 5.3. Factory fill is dexos blend and first four oil changes are free. Called my service department and asked if i paid an upcharge could i go to mobil 1 full synthetic. He really seemed to want me to stay with the dexos. Did not recomend going full synthetic and warned me once i do switch i can't go back. What do you guys think?
He is FOS.
I am unaware of dexos brand oil. Does the dealer realize that Mobil 1 is dexos licensed? There are LOTS of dexos compliant oils out there. Right now Napa has Napa brand 0W-20 full synthetic oil for $3.49 a quart AND it is dexos licensed. With that 5.3L engine taking 8.5 quarts, this will save you some money.
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Catalo...5540_0413530298
As far as switching, to use oil that is dexos compliant, you will need to use semi-synthetic or full synthetic.
Hello everyone, wondered what you guys thought. I have a 2014 chevy silverado with a 5.3. Factory fill is dexos blend and first four oil changes are free. Called my service department and asked if i paid an upcharge could i go to mobil 1 full synthetic. He really seemed to want me to stay with the dexos. Did not recomend going full synthetic and warned me once i do switch i can't go back. What do you guys think?
He is FOS.
I am unaware of dexos brand oil. Does the dealer realize that Mobil 1 is dexos licensed? There are LOTS of dexos compliant oils out there. Right now Napa has Napa brand 0W-20 full synthetic oil for $3.49 a quart AND it is dexos licensed. With that 5.3L engine taking 8.5 quarts, this will save you some money.
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Catalo...5540_0413530298
As far as switching, to use oil that is dexos compliant, you will need to use semi-synthetic or full synthetic.
Just use up the free oil changes from the dealer, once your done with them, u can start using syn or whatever oil u feel is best for your truck.
Go back and forth between conventional and synthetic every OCI.
Dexos oils are really good. I know some M1 oils have the Dexos logo. Back in the 1970s syn oil were way, way, better than conventional oils and the syns had similar additive packages similar to HDEO oils. Now days conventional oils are superb. I am finding [Syn] oils harder to justify.
Stopped by my local NAPA to see what they had in the $3.49/qt synthetic. One of the counter guys asked me what it was for and what I had previously used. When I mentioned I had gone back and forth between 5w-30 conventional and synthetic and was getting ready to do it again, they cautioned me they it could "do damage" to my engine. Gotta love it.
In checking out the specs on that NAPA synthetic, it doesn't seem to be all that impressive. I'm almost tempted to just pay $21/jug and get the Castrol Edge synthetic instead. The QS syntec is also on sale this week but I don't want to rely on a coupon...sound like several here have had problems with that.
In checking out the specs on that NAPA synthetic, it doesn't seem to be all that impressive. I'm almost tempted to just pay $21/jug and get the Castrol Edge synthetic instead. The QS syntec is also on sale this week but I don't want to rely on a coupon...sound like several here have had problems with that.
Originally Posted By: aimatdeer
Hello everyone, wondered what you guys thought. I have a 2014 chevy silverado with a 5.3. Factory fill is dexos blend and first four oil changes are free. Called my service department and asked if i paid an upcharge could i go to mobil 1 full synthetic. He really seemed to want me to stay with the dexos. Did not recomend going full synthetic and warned me once i do switch i can't go back. What do you guys think?
What's really synthetic? These days there is little difference between conventional and synthetic. In fact, API doesn't even accept "synthetic" as a valid technical term. API says '"Synthetic" is a marketing term, not a technical term.' Group III is further-refined Group II (so-called conventional) and GTL is further-refined Group III. They are all made from hydrocarbons (crude oil or natural gas in the case of GTL). Group IV, which is more synthetic in the sense that it's not directly extracted from crude oil or natural gas, is a little higher in quality than Group III and GTL. I don't think you can even find the true mineral oil, which is Group I, these days; so, the talk of synthetic could harm or change your engine is silly.
Shorter answer: You can go back and forth between synthetic and conventional and there will absolutely be no issues. On top of that, Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 Extended Performance are dexos1 oils and entirely approved by GM. It's not to mention that they outperform semisynthetic oils in every respect. Also, there is no conventional dexos1 even if you wanted to find one.
Hello everyone, wondered what you guys thought. I have a 2014 chevy silverado with a 5.3. Factory fill is dexos blend and first four oil changes are free. Called my service department and asked if i paid an upcharge could i go to mobil 1 full synthetic. He really seemed to want me to stay with the dexos. Did not recomend going full synthetic and warned me once i do switch i can't go back. What do you guys think?
What's really synthetic? These days there is little difference between conventional and synthetic. In fact, API doesn't even accept "synthetic" as a valid technical term. API says '"Synthetic" is a marketing term, not a technical term.' Group III is further-refined Group II (so-called conventional) and GTL is further-refined Group III. They are all made from hydrocarbons (crude oil or natural gas in the case of GTL). Group IV, which is more synthetic in the sense that it's not directly extracted from crude oil or natural gas, is a little higher in quality than Group III and GTL. I don't think you can even find the true mineral oil, which is Group I, these days; so, the talk of synthetic could harm or change your engine is silly.
Shorter answer: You can go back and forth between synthetic and conventional and there will absolutely be no issues. On top of that, Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 Extended Performance are dexos1 oils and entirely approved by GM. It's not to mention that they outperform semisynthetic oils in every respect. Also, there is no conventional dexos1 even if you wanted to find one.
I also have 4 free oil changes for the dealer. I called and asked how much more 4 syn. They said $4 quart. I said "na" ill do it myself. So i went to APP and got a fram XG and Valvoline synpower 0w20 instead for $30.
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Classic oil discussion here. Clarity: No, "dexos" isn't a specific brand, its a minimum performance specification, and a good tough one at that. Go back and forth between synthetic and a synthetic blend all you want (note dexos is not available in a conventional oil). Valvoline makes the aforementioned NAPA synthetic, and its decent as far as anyone knows, meets or exceeds specs.
As everybody has pointed out, there is no problem switching between mineral, semi-synthetic (blend) and full synthetic.
You do need a Dexos oil for warranty.
Dexos is a good standard, and any oil that meets it, is a good oil. I have never heard of a mineral dexos oil, only as full synthetic or semi-synthetic.
I would happily use the dealer bulk dexos semi-synthetic. After the first four changes, then you can do it yourself with dexos M1.
He may not know oil as well as some here, but I think he is looking after your car buy using proper dexos oil that will do the job, and probably saving you money buy not up selling to a more expensive product. Full synthetics only really shine under extreme conditions like racing or extended oil change intervals. Neither of which you are probably doing with your new car in warranty.
You do need a Dexos oil for warranty.
Dexos is a good standard, and any oil that meets it, is a good oil. I have never heard of a mineral dexos oil, only as full synthetic or semi-synthetic.
I would happily use the dealer bulk dexos semi-synthetic. After the first four changes, then you can do it yourself with dexos M1.
He may not know oil as well as some here, but I think he is looking after your car buy using proper dexos oil that will do the job, and probably saving you money buy not up selling to a more expensive product. Full synthetics only really shine under extreme conditions like racing or extended oil change intervals. Neither of which you are probably doing with your new car in warranty.
I would wager that a lot of pseudo synthetics don't have all that much, if any, improvement over a Dexos approved oil to begin with.
So while I agree that the advisor is simply blowing a bunch of hot air about switching between dexos and "synthetic", however I don't see any reason not use up the free oil changes. And at a conservative OCI, I don't see any reason to switch to synthetics either, as Dexos approved oils are already a notch above the API approvals.
So while I agree that the advisor is simply blowing a bunch of hot air about switching between dexos and "synthetic", however I don't see any reason not use up the free oil changes. And at a conservative OCI, I don't see any reason to switch to synthetics either, as Dexos approved oils are already a notch above the API approvals.
Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
I don't think it's evil. I think its a typical blow off move because they get asked the same questions time and time again and to change up what they are doing is a hassle and thus they throw a negative your way.
Plus being in business can bore you crazy. They are in business and not a hobbyist looking to jerk off on the latest new elixir on the market. They throw oil down the pipe and go home sad about their disgusting existence.
Ok, I laughed
Bottom line to the OP - take the free changes, then switch to whatever Dexos1 oil you want after you use them all.
I don't think it's evil. I think its a typical blow off move because they get asked the same questions time and time again and to change up what they are doing is a hassle and thus they throw a negative your way.
Plus being in business can bore you crazy. They are in business and not a hobbyist looking to jerk off on the latest new elixir on the market. They throw oil down the pipe and go home sad about their disgusting existence.
Ok, I laughed
Bottom line to the OP - take the free changes, then switch to whatever Dexos1 oil you want after you use them all.
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Originally Posted By: Brons2
Bottom line to the OP - take the free changes, then switch to whatever Dexos1 oil you want after you use them all.
Yeah, how could the yard apes in the quick oil change dealer area screw up a simple oil change? Can't happen.... https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3881134/1
Bottom line to the OP - take the free changes, then switch to whatever Dexos1 oil you want after you use them all.
Yeah, how could the yard apes in the quick oil change dealer area screw up a simple oil change? Can't happen.... https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3881134/1
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