5 MPH over the limit vs. someone clearly ignoring a traffic signal. Dash Cam or not they are not winning that argument. Documentation of an incident is always a good thing.
Dashcam...Solve or create problems?
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The clone part I did not see during my travels in the Soviet Union when Nikita Khrushchev and Leonid Brezhnev were First Secretary of the Communist Party but Cobol programming was something I had to do to earn my daily bread
depends on your state....
for some states, you speed, you lose your right of way (say someone makes a left from the oncoming lanes). then if it gets to civil court, fault depends on your state too. 50%-50%, etc.
so obviously it depends on which side you are.
then throw in things like drivers who don't know about correct right of way at U-turns...especially U-turns at signals.
for some states, you speed, you lose your right of way (say someone makes a left from the oncoming lanes). then if it gets to civil court, fault depends on your state too. 50%-50%, etc.
so obviously it depends on which side you are.
then throw in things like drivers who don't know about correct right of way at U-turns...especially U-turns at signals.
I was in an accident once where two witnesses graciously stopped, when the deputy asked for my account and I provided it; the first thing he said was that matches the description of the witnesses. Case closed as I had been legal and well behaved.
After said accident I was going around a blind corner for my first return to the gym and some teenager in what I assume was her mothers Infiniti SUV came around with roughly a third of her vehicle in my lane and causing me to take evasive maneuvers into the gravel while the teenager seemed to snarl at the audacity of someone else on the road. I went home and researched cameras after that, recognizing the witnesses from the wreck had made my life simpler but I couldn't always rely on that happening so I'd better bring my own witness.
I believe it can make you a better driver like those modules insurance companies use that monitor your driving, it is like driving with your parents in the car when you're young and you feel like you're being watched.
After said accident I was going around a blind corner for my first return to the gym and some teenager in what I assume was her mothers Infiniti SUV came around with roughly a third of her vehicle in my lane and causing me to take evasive maneuvers into the gravel while the teenager seemed to snarl at the audacity of someone else on the road. I went home and researched cameras after that, recognizing the witnesses from the wreck had made my life simpler but I couldn't always rely on that happening so I'd better bring my own witness.
I believe it can make you a better driver like those modules insurance companies use that monitor your driving, it is like driving with your parents in the car when you're young and you feel like you're being watched.
You can select what shows in most software.
My car got hit from behind and driven into the car in front of us (we have front and rear dash cams). The insurance company determined fault minutes after we sent the video. We have them in all our cars.
It's quite funny reading people's excuses. Pretty much all other entities, be it government or private, invest a lot of money in video surveillance, but here we have people being scared of installing a simple dashcam in fear of somehow incriminating themselves. Well, if you have no clue about these things, then perhaps it's better to just let other people have this protection.
I bought cheap dash cams for my travel vehicles but I still haven’t gotten around to installing them. I really need to get around to it this summer.
Neither of two cams we have in cars logs speed, just time stamp and video were the things I was interested in. Would police need a warrant to collect footage as well as insurance company if you don't want to provide it voluntarily, if at fault?
There are only very few and very specific circumstances when a warrant is not needed, in all other circumstances they need a warrant.
Having said that, there is nothing stopping them from obtaining the footage simply by asking, or by lying, or by threatening with violence or arrest or any other tricks at their disposal. If you give it away to them under those circumstances, it’s on you and they can use it against you.
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I've always kinda thought that dash cams were the purview of the tin foil hat brigade.
I can certainly see them as beneficial, but also as a two edged sword. The dash cam will document your own faux pas as well as it will those of the other party.
Forget the cops.
Nothing prevents your insurer or the other party's insurer from demanding the unredacted file before they'll move on any claim. This is a civil contract matter, not criminal and the only remedy you'd have would be to sue the insurer. Good luck with that.
Lying about the existence of any video could be construed as an attempt to defraud, so probably not a real good idea.
I can certainly see them as beneficial, but also as a two edged sword. The dash cam will document your own faux pas as well as it will those of the other party.
Forget the cops.
Nothing prevents your insurer or the other party's insurer from demanding the unredacted file before they'll move on any claim. This is a civil contract matter, not criminal and the only remedy you'd have would be to sue the insurer. Good luck with that.
Lying about the existence of any video could be construed as an attempt to defraud, so probably not a real good idea.
If I understand it correctly, evidence collected illegally cannot be presented as evidence.
If one is a bad or reckless driver, yes, your cam will work against you.
Videos are recorded to a memory card, who said you have to have such a card in dashcam at all times?
I see tons of YT videos where cammer portrays others as bad drivers while they are acting as entitled and unsafe drivers themselves. Quite often it's not about who's right or wrong but about who could prevent the accident.
Basically, my take is, don't do stupid shift or at least don't film yourself doing it.
If one is a bad or reckless driver, yes, your cam will work against you.
Videos are recorded to a memory card, who said you have to have such a card in dashcam at all times?
I see tons of YT videos where cammer portrays others as bad drivers while they are acting as entitled and unsafe drivers themselves. Quite often it's not about who's right or wrong but about who could prevent the accident.
Basically, my take is, don't do stupid shift or at least don't film yourself doing it.
Do you have any actual case of this happening? Last time I checked, insurance contracts don't have any dashcam or video evidence clauses in their contracts.
I can maybe see it if you disclosed to them you had footage of the incident and that you're going to provide it to them, only to change your mind. But otherwise, how would they even know?
Oh, I dunno, maybe the police report indicating an installed cam or scene photos showing one.
Also, there'd be no need for an insurer to provide for this in their policy contract, only their desire to arrive at a clear indication of which party should be liable, and the insurers of both parties would agree on that. I very much doubt that any court would rule against an insurer seeking all available evidence in processing a claim.
Any attempt to conceal the cam post accident or to hide the memory card would also look highly questionable.
LOL, in other words, nothing more than just speculation on your part and dreaming up scenarios that have a very small chance of happening.
It's quite amusing hearing all these excuses. We finally live in an age when the video recording tech is very affordable and available to the masses, where before only corps and governments could use them. They have been proven to be a very effective tool against scammers, unlawful detainment, or just minor fender benders, but no, let's invent all these "what if" scenarios that have probably less than 1% of happening
And even if I did incriminate myself for say speeding, if it saves me from liability and a possible lawsuit against myself and my property, I will gladly take that ticket.
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All of which assumes you aren't the one who screwed up in an accident sequence, as silly an assumption as that of us here all being superior drivers.LOL, in other words, nothing more than just speculation on your part and dreaming up scenarios that have a very small chance of happening.
It's quite amusing hearing all these excuses. We finally live in an age when the video recording tech is very affordable and available to the masses, where before only corps and governments could use them. They have been proven to be a very effective tool against scammers, unlawful detainment, or just minor fender benders, but no, let's invent all these "what if" scenarios that have probably less than 1% of happening
And even if I did incriminate myself for say speeding, if it saves me from liability and a possible lawsuit against myself and my property, I will gladly take that ticket.
Not me doing the dreaming up in this case.
I'd get one. In Colorado and a few other states, groups have actually reversed into people on the highway to make it look like they were rear ended. Then get out and claim injuries. A dash cam saved a guy recently and the police eventually found the car and people involved.
Oh dear. Show me a case where an insurance company forced an individual to provide dashcam footage. Or show me a case where they denied a claim because dashcam footage wasn't provided. If your "what ifs" were factual, an insurance company would be able to demand your smartphone as well to check if you weren't texting, for example. They need a court order for that. If the case is that serious, well that's an outlier and not the norm.
But even if I grant your position as factual, the positives far outweigh the rare circumstance you're so worried about. Well, unless you drive recklessly all the time, then a dashcam is certainly not recommended.
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Rather have proof vs he said she said. I turn off the speed reading on my dashcams.
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I like to look for ladies of the night and it’s interesting to watch the footage. But it did bite me in the butt once when I drove into a sting operation. They used my own video against me.
Just kidding.
I get it but I still now use one in all vehicles….I have thought what if you are talking to yourself, edit the sound out?!
Just kidding.
I get it but I still now use one in all vehicles….I have thought what if you are talking to yourself, edit the sound out?!
I think it's silly to consider only the upside potential of having video available while ignoring the downside risk.
But whatever, you do you.
Incidentally, the PO can easily contact your cell carrier and determine whether you were on the phone when any accident occurred, no court order needed, although they can easily get one.
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