DANFOSS BD35F freezer/fridge compressor oil.

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Working on a Norcold dual voltage (120 volt Ac/12-24 volt DC fridge freezer with a Danfoss BD35f 12 volt R134a compressor.

Before anyone tells me it’s not worth fixing, I fully understand that however no suitable replacement exists that will fit into the existing space and short of a total remodeling of the galley that would be in the $50,000 range there is no other option than repairing this unit no matter the cost.

My question is what oil does it take? All I can find is POE oil but no viscosity or any other information ia available and the manufacturer is not helpful at all and virtually impossible to contact. The manufacturers email response is to call a distributor who can’t help me and tells me to contact the manufacturer 🤦🏻‍♂️. Danfoss has a very good compressor oil chart but of course this compressor isn’t listed on it🤦🏻‍♂️.

The only information I could find online from a message board says it takes a POE oil with a viscosity of ISO 15 which doesn’t seem to exist. I am willing to take a chance with a POE ISO 22 if it really takes a ISO 15 oil, but I can’t even confirm that. Also being a freezer it obviously requires a low temperature wax free POE oil not a medium temperature AC oil and that isn’t easy to find, unless I want to buy a 5 gallon or larger bucket of something I only need 5 OZs of and will go bad after opening due to its extremely hydroscopic properties. Of course cost isn’t really an issue so if I have to buy over $600 worth of oil and throw 99.999 percent of it away so be it, but I can’t even confirm the actual viscosity required so my hands are tied here.

Anyway hopefully someone knows exactly what this compressor calls for as far as oil goes. Any help is greatly appreciated as I have never run into anything like before despite doing a ton of HVAC work, although never on small disposable appliances like this fridge.
 
May be cheaper to have someone come in a fix it ! especially if your spending $600 just on the oil ??
I would try and search out an old independent tech as these guys tend to keep everything and may have some on hand .
 
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Wax-free is only for refrigerant grade mineral oil. I don't think there's a wax-free POE or PAG.

Can you post a picture of the compressor tags.

Also, there's truly nothing wrong if you mix poe 32 which is very very readily available into it. the viscosity difference isn't massive like how it seems.
 
May be cheaper to have someone come in a fix it ! especially if your spending $600 just on the oil ??
I would try and search out an old independent tech as these guys tend to keep everything and may have some on hand .
I am the guy who was hired to fix it🤣. Actually I am the third guy who has been hired to fix it as the last two were hacks judging by the quality of the work. The last guy changed out the compressor and didn’t even bother to flow nitrogen when he brazed it in.
 
I am the guy who was hired to fix it🤣. Actually I am the third guy who has been hired to fix it as the last two were hacks judging by the quality of the work. The last guy changed out the compressor and didn’t even bother to flow nitrogen when he brazed it in.
Well that shoots down my suggestion LOL....
 
I am the guy who was hired to fix it🤣. Actually I am the third guy who has been hired to fix it as the last two were hacks judging by the quality of the work. The last guy changed out the compressor and didn’t even bother to flow nitrogen when he brazed it in.
So why not chuck the old compressor and braze or silver solder in another 12v r134A fridge compressor. Are they too bespoke?
 
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My internet search shows this as the correct oil ??:
https://www.johnstonesupply.com/product-view?pID=B85-559
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Nu-Calg...xbexbzRaCMF-9hN3SRGjCSWXnbd_7SbZqcIrGLJsC2jki
https://www.zoro.com/nu-calgon-synt...e=1&gad_campaignid=23097506630#specifications discount codes and free shipping might be available

Lubrizol is the U.S. distributor for Emkarate. Maybe they can confirm correct OEM oil choice: https://www.lubrizol.com/solutions/products/emkarate and: https://www.coolingequipment.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/RL22H.pdf

PM me for my search chain.
 
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So why not chuck the old compressor and braze or silver solder in another 12v r134A fridge compressor. Are they too bespoke?
It’s not a normal 120v compressor! It’s a 12-24 volt DC compressor and it’s variable speed. Not anything I have lying around. The fridge runs on both 120v AC and 12-24 volt DC power. The fridge has a power converter that takes 120AC and converts it to low voltage DC to run the compressor when running on AC rather than batteries.
 
Wax-free is only for refrigerant grade mineral oil. I don't think there's a wax-free POE or PAG.

Can you post a picture of the compressor tags.

Also, there's truly nothing wrong if you mix poe 32 which is very very readily available into it. the viscosity difference isn't massive like how it seems.
As for the compressor tags I’d have to go back down there to take a picture of them, and there isn’t much information on them except for the model number.

As for dumping in some generic POE 32 I’d rather not because I don’t know what it’s supposed to have and this isn’t a normal compressor it’s 12v and I don’t want a comeback even years down the road. Not trying to be rude but just trying to get the correct oil Amperage draw on these units are critical, and battery life is a major concern. Too thick of an oil will reduce battery life and possibly overheat the compressor.
Wax-free is only for refrigerant grade mineral oil. I don't think there's a wax-free POE or PAG.

Can you post a picture of the compressor tags.

Also, there's truly nothing wrong if you mix poe 32 which is very very readily available into it. the viscosity difference isn't massive like how it seems.
There is a difference between medium temp and low temp POE oils and it is separate form the viscosity. Probably not wax but there is something different about them.

I am not at the job so I can’t take any pictures of the tag but there isn’t much information on it other then the model number.

As for running ISO 32 POE oil first off I don’t have any that is low temperature rated as I mainly do AC service not refrigeration, and it may not be the correct viscosity. There are lot of reasons why that would matter including battery life as well as long term life of the compressor. I don’t want a comeback even a year or two down the road on this job as ita a royal pain to get to the unit.

It may come to POE 32 if all else fails but I am still trying to get the correct spec for this application.
 
I would call your local refrigeration supplier and see what they say. What ever copeland and tecumseh is using in low temp compressors would probably be fine.
Oh believe me i have, the supply hose has even tried to contact Danfoss with no luck.
 
Thanks that is a good find on a one gallon can of that oil and it’s low temp rated as well!

I’d would like to see your search chain because I have been unable to find a spec from a reputable source on the correct POE oil viscosity for this compressor.
 
This job sounds like a real pain-you're going to have to hope you can get ALL the moisture out of the rest of the system outside of the compressor, in addition to changing the oil, which I would do multiple times, with multiple oversized filter/dryers. Any oil left in the system will be saturated with water, and will have to be pulled out either by evacuating for a day or more, or by refrigerant moving it through the system into the dryer. I run into this with water cooled ice cream machines, which I evacuate in stages, with the compressor & dryer bypassed with copper tubing, until I'm SURE everything is completely dry-only then does the new compressor & oversized dryer go in. I've emptied & dried mineral oil R502 compressors, but they are nothing near the (honestly crazy) deal yours has. By the time I would dry, drain, and change the oil 4 or 5 times on a POE oil compressor, the labor would rapidly exceed the cost of a new one...
 
This job sounds like a real pain-you're going to have to hope you can get ALL the moisture out of the rest of the system outside of the compressor, in addition to changing the oil, which I would do multiple times, with multiple oversized filter/dryers. Any oil left in the system will be saturated with water, and will have to be pulled out either by evacuating for a day or more, or by refrigerant moving it through the system into the dryer. I run into this with water cooled ice cream machines, which I evacuate in stages, with the compressor & dryer bypassed with copper tubing, until I'm SURE everything is completely dry-only then does the new compressor & oversized dryer go in. I've emptied & dried mineral oil R502 compressors, but they are nothing near the (honestly crazy) deal yours has. By the time I would dry, drain, and change the oil 4 or 5 times on a POE oil compressor, the labor would rapidly exceed the cost of a new one...
Oh I am replacing the compressor along with half the system. It’s was completely clogged up with oxide because some idiot brazed in a new compressor without flowing any nitrogen and never installed a filter dryer! Then he removed his service valves and pinched off the process stubs Next someone else came down and installed vampire fittings to diagnose the problem recovered the charge and the customer obviously declined repairs and the guy pulled the vampire fittings off and left the system open to atmosphere on both sides! Of course this all happened with a previous owner and we have no idea how long ago it happened but It was at least 6 months and probably at least a year or two.

The new compressor didn’t come with any oil on it other than a trace, maybe a 1/4 OZ, probably drained for shipping as it was not available at any of the local supply houses and had to be ordered online, from the nearest Danfoss distributor. They can’t even tell me what goes in it for oil! I have a nearly 30 page factor manual on this compressor and it doesn’t even say anything except 5.1 OZ of POE oil! Seriously you can’t make this stuff up!

I really want to scream at this point because the one thing that should be the easiest (looking up the correct viscosity oil) or getting in touch with tech support is proving to be an impossible. Anyway hopefully I’ll find the answer today otherwise it’s just going to get whatever viscosity low temp POE oil they have at the supply house and call it good.
 
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