Take a look at this RP oil filter and pay attention when he shows the filter media where it is glued together. To me it looks like oil can go right through there unfiltered. Guess you really can't glue both ends of the metal screen together. And I have 2 of these in my stash.
{Cut open} Royal Purple Video Glue issue
- Thread starter sm00thpapa
- Start date
- Status
I was going to say the opposite. It looks pretty sturdy. He couldn't get it apart with his fingers.
Good eye. It is conceivable that oil could get through unfiltered but I think it would be bringing more discussion if there was a problem. I really think most filters synthetic or not do their job, they are far from perfect but offer adequate protection (as long as they are not defective). If you want truly excellent filtration you need a bypass filter. Not that many PC's have those and last for years, you just do your best with maintenance and that is all you can do, there are a lot of uncontrollable variables at play.
Wow that was a boring response...lol
Wow that was a boring response...lol
Last edited:
Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
I was going to say the opposite. It looks pretty sturdy. He couldn't get it apart with his fingers.
No doubt the filter is sturdy but you can plainly see that where it is glued together oil can get past it unfiltered. There is a small margin of screen with no media in front of it.
I was going to say the opposite. It looks pretty sturdy. He couldn't get it apart with his fingers.
No doubt the filter is sturdy but you can plainly see that where it is glued together oil can get past it unfiltered. There is a small margin of screen with no media in front of it.
Originally Posted By: chubbs1
Good eye. It is conceivable that oil could get through unfiltered but I think it would be bringing more discussion if there was a problem. I really think most filters synthetic or not do their job, they are far from perfect but offer adequate protection (as long as they are not defective). If you want truly excellent filtration you need a bypass filter. Not that many PC's have those and last for years, you just do your best with maintenance and that is all you can do, there are a lot of uncontrollable variables at play.
Wow that was a boring response...lol
True no filter is perfect. You have to hope for the best from what you use and hope to not find any surprises when you cut it open after use.
Good eye. It is conceivable that oil could get through unfiltered but I think it would be bringing more discussion if there was a problem. I really think most filters synthetic or not do their job, they are far from perfect but offer adequate protection (as long as they are not defective). If you want truly excellent filtration you need a bypass filter. Not that many PC's have those and last for years, you just do your best with maintenance and that is all you can do, there are a lot of uncontrollable variables at play.
Wow that was a boring response...lol
True no filter is perfect. You have to hope for the best from what you use and hope to not find any surprises when you cut it open after use.
wow.. that needs a metal crimp for sure.... or have the media glued together also.. since the media isn't sealed against the mesh (or itself), wouldn't oil start to work in between the media and mesh through the edge? (ie not being filtered)
are all RP's like this?
are all RP's like this?
Last edited:
Originally Posted By: Texan4Life
wow.. that needs a metal crimp for sure.
are all RP's like this?
I totally agree! I seen another one cut open but a close up of the media was not shown. I'm trying to find another one at the moment.
wow.. that needs a metal crimp for sure.
are all RP's like this?
I totally agree! I seen another one cut open but a close up of the media was not shown. I'm trying to find another one at the moment.
IF that seam opens in use under pressure, or if the seam was not glued together to begin with, then yes, unfiltered oil could get through, and only way to find out is if someone opens up a used filter and check...but I don't think the seam would open up if it is glued because looking at how deep the seam is, I'm guessing it looks like about 1/4 to 3/8 inch where the seam is glued, and he was only able to open the edge of it prying it with his fingers, so under the pressure in use, the pressure would be actually keeping it closed because it will be acting like it was pressing the seam together on the two sides.
Originally Posted By: wkcars
IF that seam opens in use under pressure, or if the seam was not glued together to begin with, then yes, unfiltered oil could get through, and only way to find out is if someone opens up a used filter and check...but I don't think the seam would open up if it is glued because looking at how deep the seam is, I'm guessing it looks like about 1/4 to 3/8 inch where the seam is glued, and he was only able to open the edge of it prying it with his fingers, so under the pressure in use, the pressure would be actually keeping it closed because it will be acting like it was pressing the seam together on the two sides.
I have 2 of these filters and will be using them with Amsoil XL 5w30. I definitely will cut it open after the 9K OCI to see what it looks like.
IF that seam opens in use under pressure, or if the seam was not glued together to begin with, then yes, unfiltered oil could get through, and only way to find out is if someone opens up a used filter and check...but I don't think the seam would open up if it is glued because looking at how deep the seam is, I'm guessing it looks like about 1/4 to 3/8 inch where the seam is glued, and he was only able to open the edge of it prying it with his fingers, so under the pressure in use, the pressure would be actually keeping it closed because it will be acting like it was pressing the seam together on the two sides.
I have 2 of these filters and will be using them with Amsoil XL 5w30. I definitely will cut it open after the 9K OCI to see what it looks like.
Originally Posted By: wkcars
IF that seam opens in use under pressure, or if the seam was not glued together to begin with, then yes, unfiltered oil could get through, and only way to find out is if someone opens up a used filter and check...but I don't think the seam would open up if it is glued because looking at how deep the seam is, I'm guessing it looks like about 1/4 to 3/8 inch where the seam is glued, and he was only able to open the edge of it prying it with his fingers, so under the pressure in use, the pressure would be actually keeping it closed because it will be acting like it was pressing the seam together on the two sides.
I rewatched the vid and i think your right. the two edges of the media, with the mesh in between are glued together like other glued seams. So other than the tiny lip he could peal back, it should be completely sealed, like any other glued seam.
I guess being able to see the mesh threw me off a little.
when I first watched it I thought just the mesh was glued together.
IF that seam opens in use under pressure, or if the seam was not glued together to begin with, then yes, unfiltered oil could get through, and only way to find out is if someone opens up a used filter and check...but I don't think the seam would open up if it is glued because looking at how deep the seam is, I'm guessing it looks like about 1/4 to 3/8 inch where the seam is glued, and he was only able to open the edge of it prying it with his fingers, so under the pressure in use, the pressure would be actually keeping it closed because it will be acting like it was pressing the seam together on the two sides.
I rewatched the vid and i think your right. the two edges of the media, with the mesh in between are glued together like other glued seams. So other than the tiny lip he could peal back, it should be completely sealed, like any other glued seam.
I guess being able to see the mesh threw me off a little.
when I first watched it I thought just the mesh was glued together.
I have cartridge oil filters I use on my car, 7 of them in stash currently, I've checked and some have the edge that are like this while some you can tell they went crazy with the glue cause it comes out of the edges of the seam, and all the filters I remember after doing an oil change had the seam still closed. Unless there's spots missing glue, I wouldn't worry about the seam opening up.
I don't see a problem with it, unless there was an opening or poorly-glued spot where the seam meets the endcap--and you can't tell from this vid.
I'd have no issues using this filter personally.
Matter of fact,when it's time to change oil before this winter,I'll be installing one then.
Matter of fact,when it's time to change oil before this winter,I'll be installing one then.
Originally Posted By: sm00thpapa
Originally Posted By: wkcars
IF that seam opens in use under pressure, or if the seam was not glued together to begin with, then yes, unfiltered oil could get through, and only way to find out is if someone opens up a used filter and check...but I don't think the seam would open up if it is glued because looking at how deep the seam is, I'm guessing it looks like about 1/4 to 3/8 inch where the seam is glued, and he was only able to open the edge of it prying it with his fingers, so under the pressure in use, the pressure would be actually keeping it closed because it will be acting like it was pressing the seam together on the two sides.
I have 2 of these filters and will be using them with Amsoil XL 5w30. I definitely will cut it open after the 9K OCI to see what it looks like.
Well, there you go. Look forward to the after pics.
Originally Posted By: wkcars
IF that seam opens in use under pressure, or if the seam was not glued together to begin with, then yes, unfiltered oil could get through, and only way to find out is if someone opens up a used filter and check...but I don't think the seam would open up if it is glued because looking at how deep the seam is, I'm guessing it looks like about 1/4 to 3/8 inch where the seam is glued, and he was only able to open the edge of it prying it with his fingers, so under the pressure in use, the pressure would be actually keeping it closed because it will be acting like it was pressing the seam together on the two sides.
I have 2 of these filters and will be using them with Amsoil XL 5w30. I definitely will cut it open after the 9K OCI to see what it looks like.
Well, there you go. Look forward to the after pics.
AND YOU(collectively) BASH FRAM ?????
Oh give me a break. This video does not show anything you can definitively say would cause a filtration failure.
I'm in the middle of doing particle count testing on oil run with various oil filters. I've already had an M1 tested; I'll soon be sending a sample using a Hyundai OEM filter. Next is an RP filter.
BTW, I see a whole lot more bashing of RP products than Fram products here. Few facts, lots of drivel.
I'm in the middle of doing particle count testing on oil run with various oil filters. I've already had an M1 tested; I'll soon be sending a sample using a Hyundai OEM filter. Next is an RP filter.
BTW, I see a whole lot more bashing of RP products than Fram products here. Few facts, lots of drivel.
I have been using them in my car because I wanted a filter with fully synthetic media. I look forward to seeing how they last.
- Status
