All three appear otherwise identical... save for perhaps slightly sloppier media in the black one...
Thanks for sacrificing three good filters for the interest of the members.
All three appear otherwise identical... save for perhaps slightly sloppier media in the black one...
I will try to take a video later.
If you fold the edges together in the freezer.
Black is obviously not the same material as the orange. It takes a long time to return to shape. The orange is much quicker. The blue just snaps back nearly instantly.
So FRAM is putting out false products now?I will try to take a video later.
If you fold the edges together in the freezer.
Black is obviously not the same material as the orange. It takes a long time to return to shape. The orange is much quicker. The blue just snaps back nearly instantly.
The results are as expected. They could be assessed by looking into the inlet holes.
Thanks for sacrificing three good filters for the interest of the members.
They look like servicebale oil filters to meSo FRAM is putting out false products now?
I commented in another thread that blue is typical of fluoro-silicone which is a superior material but more expensive.The results are as expected. They could be assessed by looking into the inlet holes.
Silicone rubber is susceptible to tearing, maybe the blue is a trial of some advance/ modified material.
The results are as expected. They could be assessed by looking into the inlet holes.
Silicone rubber is susceptible to tearing, maybe the blue is a trial of some advance/ modified material.
Why does Subaru use a blue 'Fram-a-roo' with nitrile adbv? Honda uses a silicone rubber on their blue 'fronda' filters,. Is Subaru cheaping out to sacrifice even a higher % of their 'loose grenade pin' engines? Man!
I ran a "classic" Ultra on the wife's new subaru for OCI#1 but the filter "glued" itself to mount face. Is this a new, leak proof but un-serviceable gasket material?
What the hey is going on? This is supposed to be easy.
I agree. That has always been the biggest falldown with me choosing FRAM was the poor quality stamping on the inlet windows near or into the radius at the base thread - which is also not de-burred.I was being generous. I stop at those poorly cut holes with jagged edges. They look like a high school metal shop did them.
I agree. That has always been the biggest falldown with me choosing FRAM was the poor quality stamping on the inlet windows near or into the radius at the base thread - which is also not de-burred.
Are they too cost controlled to tumble these baseplates like most ALL the other guys do?
Plus the fire test also confirmed the black ADBV was nitrile. The flame test is probably easier and more viable than the freezer test.That makes two controlled (orange vs black adbv) freezer tests by different members, both indicating black to be other than silicone adbv. Imo, more evidence nitrile used. I'd like to say I'm surprised, not so much. As they are very common now, supply chain issues are an acceptable explanation.
Thanks for freezer test.
I went back and re-read entire thread saw no fire test done before my comment. Only saw Overkill comment saying, 'next up'. Nor did a read a fire test in initial ph7317 adbv thread.Plus the fire test also confirmed the black ADBV was nitrile. The flame test is probably easier and more viable than the freezer test.