Current 2016 GDI engines still a concern?

[flinter]

Hi,
I own a 2015 Civic EX in MINT condition with just 12,600 miles on it but the intermittent subtle shudder and jerkiness of the CVT is driving me crazy! I was told by the dealer that the CVT needs to "break in" and it will eventually smooth out. Well, after 14 months and 12,600 miles it is STILL the same subtle shudder and jerkiness that takes ALL the enjoyment out of driving the car. Two dealers tell me there is nothing wrong with the CVT and that I just need to
"get used to it."

So, with that said, I am seriously thinking of selling my Civic and looking at just a subcompact to lessen the pain. I am seriously considering the 2016 Hyundai Accent GLS, loaded version, with 16" alloys.

My question is the 2016 Accent has a GDI engine. Are the current 2016 GDI's still a concern with the eventual "carbon buildup", or was all that just mostly internet chatter that took on a life of its own?? Are the current 2016 GDI's from Hyundai still a concern? Or where the Hyundai GDI's ever problematc?

Thanks!

 

[SatinSilver]

The trans might need to be replaced. Accord cvt's have needed replacement with low miles. I just test drove a 2017 Hyundai Elantra SE automatic(6 speed auto) and thought it was very nice. Probably preferred it over the new Civic. They are advertised for $16,400 or so plus tax. Plus it's more similar in size to your Civic.

http://www.ganleyparmahyundai.com/Vehicl...a-OH/2705611883

 

[4wd]

That is not break-in ... That is break-ing

 

[FlyNavyP3]

Or buy a compact with a manual transmission and then you get to decide when and how it shifts. As for the newer GDI engines, I'm not convinced that any of them that don't also use a port injector will be free from intake port carbon issues. That being said with the Korean 10yr 100k power train warranty does it really matter provided you replace it before the warranty is up?

 

[SatinSilver]

Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
That being said with the Korean 10yr 100k power train warranty does it really matter provided you replace it before the warranty is up?


Yes if they try to weasel out of the warranty coverage, say it's normal etc...

 

[cptbarkey]

http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Civic/2015/transmission/jerky_shifting_around_35mph.shtml

 

[compratio10_5]

Read the abstract of SAE paper 2016-01-2252. "Gasoline direct-injection engines have a well-known propensity to form intake valve deposits, regardless of operator service, engine manufacturer, or cylinder configuration." Personally I would wait until the next generation motor oil (GF-6) is released before trying a direct-injection engine if longevity is your main goal.

 

[RooflessVW]

Carbon buildup happens, but it isn't a huge deal. So you may have to remove the intake manifold and clean the valves at around 100k, but you also save money on fuel and enjoy better power.

It's a wash.

 

[flinter]

Thanks,
Perhaps the safer choice would be the new 2017 Elantra...STILL with traditional 6 speed auto, port injection (NOT GDI) and NO turbo.

 

[SatinSilver]

You may want to test drive a new Civic and see if it jerks the same way or drive a certified used one. You can also check used car listings at dealers on autotrader. Start with the high miles units and look at their carfax to see if dealers are replacing transmissions. There also might be a tsb out to reprogram it to shift better. Which would be an easy fix.

Also I'm not sure if the Elantra has GDI.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: flinter
Thanks,
Perhaps the safer choice would be the new 2017 Elantra...STILL with traditional 6 speed auto, port injection (NOT GDI) and NO turbo.


That's what I'd do. Dodge GDI and the CVT, win win in my book.

 

[BrocLuno]

+1

And you should get top $ for your Civic.

Just tell than that you want a transmission that shifts and that you can shift

 

[flinter]

BrocLumo,

I have absolutely NO desire for a manual transmission...been there, done that! No thank you for stop and go traffic, no fun!

 

[TwoWheelRider]

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Carbon buildup happens, but it isn't a huge deal. So you may have to remove the intake manifold and clean the valves at around 100k, but you also save money on fuel and enjoy better power.

It's a wash.


I look at it the same way. DI got a bad reputation for carbon build up, but they are getting better all the time. The fuel savings of a DI engine by 100k miles easily pays for an intake clean up.

 

[itguy08]

Hasn't been a concern since 2009. Hyundai has done good engineering on their GDI engiEs and has no issues that plagued early engones. If you like it buy it. Hyundai makes a nice car.

 

[Errtt]

I recently took my DD 2.4L 2010 Hyundai in for the fuel system cleaning.
I want to say they called it a 3-Point Fuel Induction System Service, something like that. Includes intake cleaning, and had 1st spark plugs change.
Had over 105k on the clock then - I cannot tell any difference how it runs, and no MPG change either.
Yes I was in & out of the lobby crossing the bay while they worked on it.

 

[maximus]

Originally Posted By: Errtt
I recently took my DD 2.4L 2010 Hyundai in for the fuel system cleaning.


The only thing they cleaned was your wallet.




My purchased new, GDI Sonata has 113k, has never had any intake service and still gets advertised mpg and produces the same power as it did when it was new.

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted By: maximus
My purchased new, GDI Sonata has 113k, has never had any intake service and still gets advertised mpg and produces the same power as it did when it was new.


This. I've got 103k of MPG data on a 2010 Ecoboost 3.5. My commute is the same, day in and day out. MPG is steady over the 103k and still runs like a .

According to those that peddle catch cans and Induction cleaning, my MPG should have gone down and I should barely have any power.

Same story in a 2011 Ecoboost but I only have records from 43k to 71k....

The GDI engines from Ford, GM, Hyundai, and maybe Honda seem to not have the issues like early BMW and VW/Audi engines did.