Cruze interval

[JHogan]

My turbo cruze has P4 ultra in it right now with a purolator classic filter. I drive the [censored] thing pretty hard; in city about 20 miles a day on average, and in ohios wonderful 95 degrees one day to 31 degrees the next day climate. What do you think an appropriate OCI would be for this? Blackstone to me 6,000 from a UOA I did on the regular platinum when I was doing all highway driving.

 

[2010Civic]

That is a super subjective question with no right answer but I would say 5-6000ish miles would be about right.

 

[CapitalTruck]

I am doing my sister's Cruze when the OLM says 25% remaining. That 1.4 turbo seems to be pretty hard on oil. I did the first few changes based on OLM alone, that was putting it out to 10k miles, just seemed like too much for me. I think 7500 is a perfectly balance of economy and protection. I use Mobil 1 regular, the Extended Performance variety exhibited more burn-off.

 

[mjoekingz28]

JMO

1 year or 10,000 miles max

 

[daves87rs]

If you drive it hard, no more than 5.5k on any oil....

 

[sopususer]

Originally Posted By: JHogan
My turbo cruze has P4 ultra in it right now with a purolator classic filter. I drive the [censored] thing pretty hard; in city about 20 miles a day on average, and in ohios wonderful 95 degrees one day to 31 degrees the next day climate. What do you think an appropriate OCI would be for this? Blackstone to me 6,000 from a UOA I did on the regular platinum when I was doing all highway driving.


We bought a used 2012 Cruze back in December with almost 32K on it. The dealer (GM dealer) changed the oil before delivery, presumably wtih GM dexos. At 35K I dumped and went with QSUD. I'm thinking 5K as an oci for the turbo. One positive is it is one of the easiest vehicles ever to do an oil change

BTW where did you get the PUrolator filter? The best deal I've found is on the AC from Amazon.

 

[bigt61]

I'd say just follow the OLM. You should be good for that, maybe even plus a thousand or two past the OLM. Just keep it topped off.

 

[JHogan]

I got it from advanced auto but I didn't get a deal on it I just need a filter right now but I found K&N ProSeries filters on Amazon for like seven bucks a piece or Delcos was also on Amazon for about four bucks. I've noticed the filter for our vehicle is about the same the matter where you get it.

 

[Nate1979]

Throw the Tearolator in the trash and get a good filter.

 

[ExMachina]

Originally Posted By: JHogan
.... What do you think an appropriate OCI would be for this? Blackstone to me 6,000 from a UOA I did on the regular platinum when I was doing all highway driving.


The GM OLM light should be followed. After all, you are using a better engine oil than the OLM engine computer assumes you are using. The OLM software algorithms are very good when it comes to determining oil life, taking into account temperature extremes, loading, etc., very sophisticated and better than anybody's guessing.
Since your Cruze uses a cartridge element style oil filter (no canister), then Purolator should be "OK" to use, it was the can-types that were tearing. (Purolator would not allowing tearing in a cartridge since its so visible to the owner...). Still, I'd prefer any Fram cartridge in there due to better filtering action.

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: bigt61
I'd say just follow the OLM. You should be good for that, maybe even plus a thousand or two past the OLM. Just keep it topped off.


Not this car, not this engine. This particular year is very optimistic for the OLM. The OLM would be running the oil 10-11k miles, which would destroy the turbo in very short order. The GM 1.4T is hard on oil, and needs shorter change intervals than what the earlier Cruze's OLM's stated.

For the hard city use, I'd recommend 5000 miles with full synthetic oil.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

For the oil filter, I recommend the Mahle OX149D or the Mann HU 612/2x

For appropriate OCI, just follow the OLM.

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
For the oil filter, I recommend the Mahle OX149D or the Mann HU 612/2x

For appropriate OCI, just follow the OLM.


No! Don't follow the OLM in this car!!! From 2011-2013, GM was optimistic with the OLM in the 1.4T powered Cruzes. It will run the oil far too long, even a full synthetic.

5k miles or 25% on the OLM, whichever comes first.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Originally Posted By: sciphi


No! Don't follow the OLM in this car!!! From 2011-2013, GM was optimistic with the OLM in the 1.4T powered Cruzes. It will run the oil far too long, even a full synthetic.

5k miles or 25% on the OLM, whichever comes first.


Didn't they fix that though? I know GM has recalibrated OLM's before, most notably on their DI V6 crossovers.

 

[JHogan]

I'll send a sample in around 4,500 or so and go from there. I've read/seen some bad things with these engines

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: sciphi


No! Don't follow the OLM in this car!!! From 2011-2013, GM was optimistic with the OLM in the 1.4T powered Cruzes. It will run the oil far too long, even a full synthetic.

5k miles or 25% on the OLM, whichever comes first.


Didn't they fix that though? I know GM has recalibrated OLM's before, most notably on their DI V6 crossovers.


They did halfway through MY 2013 through current. The older cars haven't had a reflash. Or at least I haven't heard of a campaign for one.

The OLM in those years is calibrated where 0% means a full synthetic oil has had its additives used up. There's no margin for error. On the dealer-standard-fill semi-synthetic oil, the oil is well beyond its useful life at 0% on the OLM. Most folks changed their oil well before that point, so it was small potatoes compared to the 3.6 V6 OLM issue.

 

[ExMachina]

ugh! Can't believe GM screwed up the OLM algorithm in the turbo Cruz's! Knew that had to re-flash 3.6 DI v6's for bad parts in the timing chains that got thru, essentially making the owners pay for their mistakes. Now the Cruz!?
Still go by the OLM, but change the oil at 20% using a quality name brand synthetic oil.

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: ExMachina
ugh! Can't believe GM screwed up the OLM algorithm in the turbo Cruz's! Knew that had to re-flash 3.6 DI v6's for bad parts in the timing chains that got thru, essentially making the owners pay for their mistakes. Now the Cruz!?
Still go by the OLM, but change the oil at 20% using a quality name brand synthetic oil.


It's not screwed up. There's just zero margin for going longer. What GM did was adapt the OLM for the US market starting sometime in MY 2013.

The 1.4T is based on a small-displacement Opel engine family found in a lot of smaller Opels and Vauxhalls. So the OLM was initially calibrated for European maintenance habits instead of generally sloppier US compact car buyer maintenance habits. The Cruze is considered a family car in other parts of the world instead of a compact like it is in the US.

So treat the 1.4T like the European expatriate it is, and the engine will live a long life. Treat it like a old OHV 2.2, and it will blow the turbo in short order.