So when auto shopping what do you cross off the list?
For me it's:
1) CVT's
2) Direct Injections
3) Most Turbos
4) Most 4 cylinders although I goofed and bought one.
Cross it off the list
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
So when auto shopping what do you cross off the list?
For me it's:
1) CVT's
2) Direct Injections
3) Most Turbos
4) Most 4 cylinders although I goofed and bought one.
Oh yeah Start/Stop feature that can't be disabled. Automatically crossed off!
Toyota RAV4 comes to mind as avoiding all those "issues". ?
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: StevieC
So when auto shopping what do you cross off the list?
For me it's:
1) CVT's
2) Direct Injections
3) Most Turbos
4) Most 4 cylinders although I goofed and bought one.
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Oh yeah Start/Stop feature that can't be disabled. Automatically crossed off!
I cross off anything new that has rear drum brakes and hubcaps.
Originally Posted By: StevieC
So when auto shopping what do you cross off the list?
For me it's:
1) CVT's
2) Direct Injections
3) Most Turbos
4) Most 4 cylinders although I goofed and bought one.
Originally Posted By: Danno
Toyota RAV4 comes to mind as avoiding all those "issues". ?
The only thing that is an auto-disqualification for me is the auto start/stop.
Turbos have proven to last a long time when done properly. I was a skeptic of Ford's Ecoboost engines, but if I were to go buy a truck today, it would be the V6 Ecoboost. If they have one without auto start/stop, that is. Looks like most 2018s will have it.
Originally Posted By: Uregina09
I cross any Dodge/Chrysler products off my list.
All but item 4. A good I 4 in a light chassis provides great handling and fun. For the average guy, it provides fun driving a slow car fast. Plus the mechanic in me is scared by the timing chains/belts required in an OHC V6 
For me it's:
1. Cloth
2. CVT
I'm pretty much good with everything else.
Oh yeah, add timing belt to my list. Hate those. The Santa Fe 2.7L V6 was a royal PITA to do that on. 
No offense but you own a vehicle the only redeeming quality is 6-7 passenger AND inexpensive because they have to fire sale them to get a buyer.
4cylinders are all over the map and quite good as of late. Chrysler unfortunately maintains the reputation of garbage 4 cylinders.
How about dual-clutch transmissions for daily drivers. I could stand having gear shifts that are a half-second slower with a traditional auto because with careful planning I can still get to work on time.
GDI is a definite NO, NO. Same with CVT's. And you can throw in all those other devices/features that pose future problems like adaptive cruise control, auto-dimming head lights, automatic windshield wipers, memory seat positions, any setting that require a touchscreen while you're driving and all those other solutions looking for a problem.
I just purchased an 06 Scion xB (wife calls it an XBox) with a 5-speed manual. It's about as basic and simple as can be. It has one of the simplest, most prolific and reliable engines in the industry, the 1.5L 1NZ-FE that's still in production today all over the world in too many vehicles to list. At the time of xB introduction, there was no leading edge technology to be found anywhere, just old fashioned reliable stuff that works. It's a self-propelled shipping crate and will haul my mountain bike, camping gear and everything else with no fuss. It's so ugly, it's cute.
I've had my toys in the past and everyone should have some, too. Now it's time for a DD.
Last time I got a car, the deal-breakers were:
- Automated transmission of any kind
- Turbocharging
- FWD
- AWD
- Lack of warranty
- Lack of usable back seats
Basically narrowed the entire automotive universe down to almost nothing, even before taking price into account. Among the few cars that remained, the one that was the best at the thing I value most (handling) also happened to come with the best warranty and an affordable price tag. Pretty much a slam-dunk. :]
Next time I get a car, at least one of those will have to give. Hoping it's no more than one.
Anything over $25,000 right off the bat. 
That eliminates most of the newer tech out there.
I have no problems with turbos, 4-bangers (see sig), autos (although I prefer a manual if all other things are equal)... If manufacturers would make CVTs that act like CVTs (no fake shift points), I wouldn't have a problem with them either although I'm not sure about their longevity; time will tell.
I would avoid hybrids, stop-starts, diesels, fake engine sounds coming through the speakers (looking at you Ford), Chrystler, variable cylinder management, touch screens, leather, >18" wheels...
Edit: going to add to the avoid list-- 2 doors, lack of storage space, no useful back seat, I'm sure there are other things that I can't think of at the moment.
That eliminates most of the newer tech out there.
I have no problems with turbos, 4-bangers (see sig), autos (although I prefer a manual if all other things are equal)... If manufacturers would make CVTs that act like CVTs (no fake shift points), I wouldn't have a problem with them either although I'm not sure about their longevity; time will tell.
I would avoid hybrids, stop-starts, diesels, fake engine sounds coming through the speakers (looking at you Ford), Chrystler, variable cylinder management, touch screens, leather, >18" wheels...
Edit: going to add to the avoid list-- 2 doors, lack of storage space, no useful back seat, I'm sure there are other things that I can't think of at the moment.
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