Credibility, trustworthiness of Consumer Reports

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Is CR the reliable, trustworthy, credible source that folks counted on when buying appliances, cars in years past?
I can access it through our towns library but I'm not so sure of their credibility in recent years.
Thoughts?
 
They claim zero bias because they don't have sponsors or advertising but there are certainly other ways to buy influence of such an organization. Anyone know of CR involved in such shenanigans?
 
I think they do a decent job but as with everything, don't take them as the ultimate authority. I remember the Suzuki thing which, in the end, they turned out to be correct. I wish they had done a similar test with the Exploders and prevented many rollover deaths and injuries.
 
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CR was a fun read and a good place to start research before buying. I haven't looked at them in years. The magazine industry has been crushed by the internet so I imagine they don't have the same readership or budget these days...who knows.

Project Farm is making a good one-man effort.

Forums can be helpful too, like this one.

I suppose Amazon and YouTube reviews are popular today. But they generally are useless IME (outside of some photos and some low-star review might be helpful.).
 
I have used them in the past as one data point on any specific research task. Prior to the internet they were one of only a few resources out there but now we have more than enough. Some more reliable than others due to paid sponsorship but still better than before the internet.
 
I've never had the impression that they're corporate shills or bought off or anything like that.

But what I have noticed is that the results of their studies aren't weighted by the same things that I might value. For example, when buying a washing machine, they'll weight stuff like energy/water efficiency very highly, and I (personally) would rate cleaning performance and reliability much, much higher than efficiency or noise, for example.

To some degree, that's an IT issue in that they could easily enough devise a web interface that let you rank the data elements as you saw fit and come up with your own rankings, but that would steal a lot of their own thunder in providing "Recommended" models and what-not.

Or worse, they use the "Normal" cycle on things like dishwashers and washing machines for testing, when the very clear implication from the owner's manual is that they optimized the "Normal" cycle for the EPA efficiency tests, and that the "Heavy Duty" cycle is the better one for most uses. I know CR thinks they're leveling the playing field, but it also distorts the actual results in situations like this.

The other thing I've run across is that their selections are often somewhat limited, or aimed at a different market segment than I'm in. For example, they review and rank pillows, but they're all name-brand pillows. There are no Walmart or Target house-brand pillows in that mix.

So to sum up, I think it's useful information, but more along the lines of a few more data elements rather than a review I can necessarily take to the bank. Still better and more rigorous than some boobs on YouTube with videos showing tests of questionable methodology though. (Project farm, I'm looking at you.)
 
I've been a magazine subscriber for over 20 years. I use their reports and ratings as a reference tool, not for an ultimate decision. Some vehicles they have criticized or panned for performance or reliability in the past have exceeded my expectations, so either I've been lucky or CR has been off base sometimes. I still find their articles to be informative and helpful.
 
Is CR the reliable, trustworthy, credible source that folks counted on when buying appliances, cars in years past?
I can access it through our towns library but I'm not so sure of their credibility in recent years.
Thoughts?
I have a better question for those who answer negatively. If not Consumer Reports, then who?
Who has the audience of thousands to report back on their purchases?

Bottom line is they do the best that they can with surveys and inspecting products that they purchase. They are not some criminal enterprise looking to take advantage of you and no one has the database that they do. Im sure the sampling group in forums is more scientific? *LOL* I think not.

Look forward to all the suggestions of a better resource. There really isnt but as others point out, use them as a resource, choose what is important to you. They cant predict and be some magical gold standard for every product they test but they do test to the best of their abilities and consumer satisfaction ratings are as best they can be. I myself fill out their questionnaires on products I own.
 
I have a better question for those who answer negatively. If not Consumer Reports, then who?
Who has the audience of thousands to report back on their purchases?
Exactly. While I'd love it if Southwest Research Institute would do this sort of testing and publicly publish it, I think CR is about as good as we're going to get.

My post wasn't meant to imply they're useless, just that their priorities aren't the same as mine, and that tends to make their rankings a bit less useful for me.
 
We've used Consumer Reports for years. Consider how the information is collected.

Several times a year their subscribers are asked about their experience with recent purchases. What did you buy? Are you happy with it? Did you have to have it repaired? What needed to be repaired? Would you buy it again? etc.

They also do their own tests on goods they purchase the same way that anyone else does - from a retailer.

That information is collated into periodic report on toasters, irons, refrigerators, televisions, Chevrolets, etc. They offer an opinion on satisfaction, reliability, value for money, etc.

So is it absolute? Nope. Is it useful? Absolutely.

Sources of bias: They rely on subscriber's memories. Subscribers aren't subject experts. Subscribers don't have to answer. Their weighting of problems may be questioned. Repair records tend to be focused on the recent past rather than longer term.

But holy smokes, where else can you get this kind of (pretty objective) information based on tens or even hundreds of thousands of purchases.
 
Their youtube car reviews are OK but they whine too much on one topic of the vehicle and don't move on. Also I don't care for the east coast smugness. They come off as we are superior IMO
 
I have a better question for those who answer negatively. If not Consumer Reports, then who?
Who has the audience of thousands to report back on their purchases?

Bottom line is they do the best that they can with surveys and inspecting products that they purchase. They are not some criminal enterprise looking to take advantage of you and no one has the database that they do. Im sure the sampling group in forums is more scientific? *LOL* I think not.

Look forward to all the suggestions of a better resource. There really isnt but as others point out, use them as a resource, choose what is important to you. They cant predict and be some magical gold standard for every product they test but they do test to the best of their abilities and consumer satisfaction ratings are as best they can be. I myself fill out their questionnaires on products I own.
Valid point for products besides cars. I've found US News and World Reports as a reliable source for automobiles ratings and reviews.
 
Valid point for products besides cars. I've found US News and World Reports as a reliable source for automobiles ratings and reviews.
Where does US News and World Reports get their information? Do they talk to "a guy who knows"? Do they do their own testing? Do they survey tens of thousands of customers?

Every source has its own bias.
 
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