Considering Switching Back From ST To M1

[Number_35]

About four years ago the Mobil 1 deals started drying up here, and SuperTech was still very affordable.

All the following prices are in C$:

Mobil 1 typically ran about $50 for a 4.4 l jug, but would regularly go on sale for c. $29 to $35 for a 4.4 l jug with a bonus 1 l bottle strapped to it.

Walmart's SuperTech (ST), meanwhile, was around $15 to $18 for a 5 l jug.

So, I switched over to ST.

However, since then ST has taken a big jump in price, and is now $28.88/5 l jug.

ST has been fine, but has never offered my preferred weight of 0W-30 (the one oil I could use in everything, year-round).

Now Walmart is offering Mobil 1 AFE in 0W-30 for $40.

For the $11 difference (OK, $12.xx with tax included), I'm considering going back to Mobil 1.

Your thoughts on whether it's worth it? Thanks.

 

[kschachn]

How much is ESP?

 

[fantastic]

What's it going in?

 

[Number_35]

What's it going in?

2007 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3

2009 Mazda5 2.3

2009 Kia Sedona 3.8

The Kia and the Mazda don't get garaged or plugged in during the winter.

They will both be subjected to multiple cold (very cold - in excess of -30°C) starts this winter.

 

[Number_35]

How much is ESP?

ESP is expensive here -

 

[dubber09]

CT just recently had a deal/sale on M1 and M1 had a promo with up to C$35 off on 3 jugs total making the oil prices very attractive. I got 3 jugs, not that I needed to as I got a few PPE LX 0w-30 and M1 ESP 0w-20 already. I don't use other oils basically.

 

[kschachn]

ESP is expensive here -
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Well ESP 0W-40 is expensive here too but not that bad.

No ESP 0W-30 in a multi quart/liter container?

 

[fantastic]

2007 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3

2009 Mazda5 2.3

2009 Kia Sedona 3.8

The Kia and the Mazda don't get garaged or plugged in during the winter.

They will both be subjected to multiple cold (very cold - in excess of -30°C) starts this winter.

Thanks Not really familiar with those but I think you have the right idea. The AFE is not exactly my favorite for anything outside of a fuel sipper Prius or something along those lines but can't say it would hurt anything in those engines either.

At least it's a 30 grade and the 0w should certainly help you out but you already know that.

Do you plan any UOA?

 

[Patman]

ESP is expensive here -
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ESP 0w-40 might be expensive here but the other viscosities are not.

On sale we can get 0w-20, 5w-30 and 0w-30 ESP for $43 for a 5 quart jug, which works out to $30 US.

 

[Nicasio]

Yeah i switched a while ago. ST FS is nearly the same price of QS and nearly M1 nowadays. Better deal would be at Costco when the jugs of Kirkland are on sale.

 

[Nicasio]

Even our DD beater cars have been getting M1 or QS Euro every 5k mi. No more ST oil here, just the filters

 

[barkingspider]

Life’s too short. Run whatever oil makes you feel good

 

[53' Stude]

About four years ago the Mobil 1 deals started drying up here, and SuperTech was still very affordable.

All the following prices are in C$:

Mobil 1 typically ran about $50 for a 4.4 l jug, but would regularly go on sale for c. $29 to $35 for a 4.4 l jug with a bonus 1 l bottle strapped to it.

Walmart's SuperTech (ST), meanwhile, was around $15 to $18 for a 5 l jug.

So, I switched over to ST.

However, since then ST has taken a big jump in price, and is now $28.88/5 l jug.

ST has been fine, but has never offered my preferred weight of 0W-30 (the one oil I could use in everything, year-round).

Now Walmart is offering Mobil 1 AFE in 0W-30 for $40.

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For the $11 difference (OK, $12.xx with tax included), I'm considering going back to Mobil 1.

Your thoughts on whether it's worth it? Thanks.

Is your ST oil still made by Safety Kleen?

 

[facility1]

what's the price of quaker state ultimate? if you can get it, providing price is a concern, good oil for Canadian winters too.

 

[Patman]

what's the price of quaker state ultimate? if you can get it, providing price is a concern, good oil for Canadian winters too.

Quaker State Ultimate Protection is not available in Canada

 

[Number_35]

Is your ST oil still made by Safety Kleen?

Warren Distributors, I've read here.

 

[ATex7239]

Good move. Supertech is so passé.

 

[Number_35]

Thanks Not really familiar with those but I think you have the right idea. The AFE is not exactly my favorite for anything outside of a fuel sipper Prius or something along those lines but can't say it would hurt anything in those engines either.

At least it's a 30 grade and the 0w should certainly help you out but you already know that.

Do you plan any UOA?

I haven't had a UOA done for a long time - I change oil and filter two or three times a year, averaging 5,000 to 10,000 km per change, depending on season and type of driving.

All three engines are pretty durable.

Is the M1 ESP considered to be a superior oil due to its higher PAO content?

Is it reasonable to assume the M1 AFE is not really an upgrade over the ST full synthetic?

 

[Number_35]

ESP 0w-40 might be expensive here but the other viscosities are not.

On sale we can get 0w-20, 5w-30 and 0w-30 ESP for $43 for a 5 quart jug, which works out to $30 US.

Where do you get your ESP?

Do you consider ESP one of the best non-boutique motor oils?

 

[Number_35]

Well ESP 0W-40 is expensive here too but not that bad.

No ESP 0W-30 in a multi quart/liter container?

Not that I've found yet - but I've only done online searches of Walmart and Canadian Tire so far.

Edit: Just found it. Pretty pricy here. I would consider it if it goes on sale.

$59.99 + $0.85 environmental fee + 12% tax = $68.14

Ouch!