Cobalt XFE (Thread-2)

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Originally Posted By: Black Bart
Here is what one site has to say on it.
The fact that it has more torque with better mileage is big deal to me.
They may have the final gear real high but when you are in the first four gears it would out perform the others hands down
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Suddenly Cobalt Beats its Competition
By Igor Holas | 04.11.2008 | http://www.autosavant.net

Among all the excitement over Chevrolet’s new 260 horsepower Cobalt SS, GM made a much quieter, but much more significant change to the Cobalt lineup.


Starting immediately, GM claims the Cobalt with manual transmission to be among the “most fuel-efficient compacts on the market” with 36 miles per gallon highway. This is mostly true, as this new number beats out the Corolla (34mpg for the now current 2009 model) Civic (34 mpg) and Focus (35 mpg) who have been leading until now. However, the Civic with automatic transmission achieves the same highway mileage and better city mileage, and the Civic hybrid (of course) beats out all of them. Nonetheless, the mileage improvement is a meaningful and important improvement to the otherwise well-rounded Cobalt. Using a standard engine that is significantly larger than its competition, the Cobalt has been saddled with a somewhat mediocre 33 mpg until now. Moreover, the new mileage rating was still achieved on the 2.2l EcoTec, which also boasts the best-in-class horsepower (148) and torque (152), leaving the 1.8l and 2.0l engines from the aforementioned competition in the dust. To exemplify the magnitude of GM’s achievement, the very-much acclaimed Mazda3 with a similarly-powerful 2.3l engine achieves miserable 29 miles per gallon on the highway – a full seven mpg difference.


Correction on their Mazda3 Comments. The 2.3L Mazda3s is rated 156hp, not 148 like the cobalt and is rated 29mpg hwy. The 2.0L Mazda3i is rated 148hp (same as cobalt) and is rated 32mpg hwy.

FYI, the 2.3L in my heavier mazda6i will get 36mpg on the hwy.
 
I just think its ridiculous that the cobalt does not have the option for power windows. If it werent for that I'd seriously consider it over the civic and corolla. Does the mazda3 have power windows btw?
 
According to chevy's website, power windows are standard on the Cobalt 1LT and up, just not on the LS. The XFE version is available in both LS and 1LT.

And yes, the Mazda3 has power windows.
 
Thanks for the info rationull. A review site I saw showed n/a for power windows on all models. Those review sites sure have a lot of misinformation on them. One review site said the civic coupe was 2500lbs when honda's site says its 2600lbs. Best to just read the reviews on the review sites and read all the specs and info on the maker sites.
 
Yeah I've noticed that too w/ some sites. Claiming no power windows across an entire line is a pretty glaring error for a site that people are supposed to read for information.
 
Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
I think I missed it somewhere in this thread. how much is this cobalt xfe selling for?


No idea since it's a 2009. MSRP for a base 2008 is $14885. It looks like the XFE package will automatically be included on all 2.2L 5spd manual Cobalts. When I purchased my 2007 Cobalt LS, auto this time last year, It had $2500 worth of incentives. I got for $12100. It's about the lease expensive new car you can buy (after incentives). I think the only car cheaper might be an Aveo.

Joel
 
I like the higher hp and tq of the cobalt while remaining close to the same mileage of the civic and corolla but how is the build quality and overall reliability of the cobalt compared the the civic and corolla? Im wondering if most people have had a lot of problems with them or if they are good vehicles to keep long term.
 
Originally Posted By: cousincletus
If it is anything like the Cavalier, they'll run forever.


That is true, while the Cavalier wasn't the best built car out there, the engines would run forever. There are tons of them on the road with 200k or more, a lot of them severely neglected cars too, but yet they still soldier on. :)
 
Originally Posted By: leftlane
... how is the build quality and overall reliability of the cobalt compared the the civic and corolla?


The fit/finish and materials are decent for it's price. It's actually put together better and has better fit/finish than the 2005 Trailblazer we had! I've only had my Cobalt 1yr/15Kmi at this point and it's been great. I had one issue with the torque converter cycling out/in of lockup, but the dealer fixed it by clearing the shift adapts. It hasn't come back in over 3Kmi so far. Supposedly GM is working on a software patch for this issue with the 2007-08 Cobalt (4L45E auto only). Other than that, it's a great, fun to drive car. I wouldn't want to use for cross-country, but it's a great commuter & around town car.

Joel
 
My father always had a long, rural commute to his work and after a sucession of Dusters in the 70's (my uncle was the local Mopar dealer) he went with a Chevette in the wake of the oil crunch. He drove it to 476k miles before trading it for a 91 Cavalier. That one he drove until a rendevous with a deer about 4 years later. He replaced it with yet another Cavalier that ran for 7 years of 120 mile a day commutes until he drowsily lost control and hit a tree after coming off graveyard shift. He replaced THAT one with a Sunfire coupe and retired thankfully. The Sunfire still runs like new after 6 years and has even made a few trips from central Louisiana to Peoria to visit my brother's family. And of course, to mow the family rent property he loads up the mower in my brother's old 92 Sunbird.

So, we've had lots of these little cars in the family and, while they may be little hot wheels cars, they run forever.
 
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