C'mon Honda get your act together

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Looks like the Eurozone is getting the new Hornet, but nothing for the US. Yet?

I know everyone goes on about what you get for the $$, and it is a lot, but the CB1000 SP in black/gold is sexy. Just get rid of that ridiculous Godzilla muffler!

Let's go Honda! You can have my money yesterday.


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Those bikes don't really sell over here, Honda last sold the Hornet over here in the mid 2000s, sometime around 2006 but it was rebadged as the 599. They have a lot of great bikes overseas but they don't bring them into this market.

They just announced a GB350s but it's not slated but there is speculation that Honda will make a GB500 for this market which will either use a larger big bore version of that or the 471cc that they're currently using in a lot of their models.
 
Meh, bring the Blackbird back and then we can talk. Honda is lost in the woods when it comes to exciting motorcycles, they want to make commuters it seems.
This 100%. I keep trying to really like them yet their specs relative to everyone else are just so tame, underwhelming. I wouldn’t have as much of an issue with it if they weren’t asking top-dollar. Now that CBR1000rr-SP2….hands down sharpest looking motorcycle out there!
 
This low mile '08 Honda XR650L followed me home a few weeks ago. Single cylinder, air cooled, carbureted and a 37" seat height. It will be perfect for exploring the back roads of New England...after the snow melts.:)

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I feel like the USA is always behind the times compared to over seas with motorcycles.
Sport bikes and cruisers seem to be the popularity here, with adventure bikes and standard bikes trickling in.
I currently have a 2001 Honda Valkyrie and a 2022 Triumph Street Scrambler. Both bikes have been my favorite
by far. The scrambler has been the funnest bike I have owned so far. Plus this is coming off of a life time of sport and sport touring bikes.
I had a 2017 Hayabusa before that, along with 15 years on a vfr750f.
 
I feel like the USA is always behind the times compared to over seas with motorcycles.
Sport bikes and cruisers seem to be the popularity here, with adventure bikes and standard bikes trickling in.
I currently have a 2001 Honda Valkyrie and a 2022 Triumph Street Scrambler. Both bikes have been my favorite
by far. The scrambler has been the funnest bike I have owned so far. Plus this is coming off of a life time of sport and sport touring bikes.
I had a 2017 Hayabusa before that, along with 15 years on a vfr750f.
I would love to get a hold of a VFR 1200F, but there aren't many of them around. They can be had, but it would require a road trip to get one...
 
It's always been this way since the beginning. US doesn't even get some great bikes or gets a toned down version missing a lot of features.
I own one now. 92 Honda 750 Nighthawk VS CB750 everywhere else.
 
Meh, bring the Blackbird back and then we can talk. Honda is lost in the woods when it comes to exciting motorcycles, they want to make commuters it seems.

I put 30k miles on a '99 CBR1100XX, from new. The most disappointing bike I've ever owned.
 
Elaborate, please!

I absolutely HATED the linked brakes. They were designed for beginning riders, but the bike was not a beginner bike. When riding at a spirited pace, you would be slowing down, using primarily the front brake as any skilled rider who is used to roadracing, trackdays, or even just riding a spirited pace would, when all of a sudden the rear tire is skidding and you're backing it in. Now backing it in can be fun when the rider is controlling the skid, but not when the bike does it unpredictably on it's own. The only way to get the rear tire rolling again is to ease up on the front brake lever. That's not always what you want to do when approaching a turn at speed.

Honda's idea was that unskilled riders tend to stomp ONLY on the rear brake pedal. So this was their idea to get to front brakes involved in slowing the bike down. A system that attempted to help unskilled riders, but hampered the performance for everyone who had moved past the stomp-and-pray braking style.

Some owners disconnected and bypassed the system. But even then you only had 3 piston calipers (2 if not using the rear brake pedal) on the front. The bike simply needed a much better braking system.

The camchain tensioners were a problem. To my knowledge Honda never acknowledged the issue, like other manufacturers have and did. Some people used X-11 (naked Blackbird) camchain tensioners, but they weren't really any different or better than the Blackbird CCT's.

Voltage regulators were another unrecognized-by-Honda issue.

One problem that I found hard to believe on their then top-of-the-line Sportbike, was my bike actually came with an out-of-round rear sprocket. I don't know how that could have made it through production and assembly, but to the Dealers credit, they acknowledged it, and it was replaced under warranty.

The unadjustable fork was simply inexcusable in my opinion.

It was just a disappointment all around.

My old ZX-11D which I sold when I bought the CBR1100XX, was a better bike in my opinion. Even though the Blackbird juuuust edged it out on the top end.

My later ZX-12R was much better, and the Hayabusa that I bought and owned alongside the ZX-12R for year, proved the best of the bunch, in my opinion. 23 years after I sold the ZX-12R, I still have the 1st gen 'Busa. Although it's quite a ways from stock, it still puts a smile on my face.
 
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