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'Sticking accelerators'.....hmmmm, where have I heard THAT one before?
'Sticking accelerators'.....hmmmm, where have I heard THAT one before?
Chrysler recalls almost 600k vehicles....
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Here's what I I don't get- Chrysler has had problems for as long as I have been alive with quality control- and I'm 43. (Automatic Transmissions anyone?) But people still buy them.
The best engine they ever made, in my opinion, was the 225 slant 6. Not a powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination, but reliable as the day is long. Of course they don't make anything nearly that good anymore- they gave is a 3 liter Mitsubishi that is prone to head gasket problems, among other things. And that is only one example, My sister in law kept my bother's Chrysler 300 after he passed away "for sentimental reasons" and sold her low mileage Infiniti, against my advice. I told her to count on transmission issues (it is a Chrysler, after all.) Sure enough, less than a year later the transmission took a dump- just out of warranty, of course.
I grew up in a "Chrysler household" and I still don't get it. I'm just surprised it was only 600,000. I'll bet darn near everything they have ever built qualifies for some type of recall for either shoddy workmanship or engineering.
Not trolling, or trying to start a flame war, just my honest opinion.
P.S. Yes I have owned two Chrysler products in the past. The Dodge was so bad AAA declined to renew my membership and I was ineligible for AAA for 5 years. I'm not kidding.
The best engine they ever made, in my opinion, was the 225 slant 6. Not a powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination, but reliable as the day is long. Of course they don't make anything nearly that good anymore- they gave is a 3 liter Mitsubishi that is prone to head gasket problems, among other things. And that is only one example, My sister in law kept my bother's Chrysler 300 after he passed away "for sentimental reasons" and sold her low mileage Infiniti, against my advice. I told her to count on transmission issues (it is a Chrysler, after all.) Sure enough, less than a year later the transmission took a dump- just out of warranty, of course.
I grew up in a "Chrysler household" and I still don't get it. I'm just surprised it was only 600,000. I'll bet darn near everything they have ever built qualifies for some type of recall for either shoddy workmanship or engineering.
Not trolling, or trying to start a flame war, just my honest opinion.
P.S. Yes I have owned two Chrysler products in the past. The Dodge was so bad AAA declined to renew my membership and I was ineligible for AAA for 5 years. I'm not kidding.
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I grew up in a "Chrysler household" and I still don't get it. I'm just surprised it was only 600,000. I'll bet darn near everything they have ever built qualifies for some type of recall for either shoddy workmanship or engineering.
Not trolling, or trying to start a flame war, just my honest opinion.
P.S. Yes I have owned two Chrysler products in the past. The Dodge was so bad AAA declined to renew my membership and I was ineligible for AAA for 5 years. I'm not kidding.
I don't get it either. I know several "Ford people" who have had nothing but trouble with them and they keep buying more. One was bragging on Ford and after we left their house I said to my wife, uh, aren't these the people that sued Ford because their car was a pile of junk? Or am I thinking of someone else? My wife says, yes, it's them! Just don't get it. If I had to sue any manufacturer that would be the last of their product I would ever buy.
John
I grew up in a "Chrysler household" and I still don't get it. I'm just surprised it was only 600,000. I'll bet darn near everything they have ever built qualifies for some type of recall for either shoddy workmanship or engineering.
Not trolling, or trying to start a flame war, just my honest opinion.
P.S. Yes I have owned two Chrysler products in the past. The Dodge was so bad AAA declined to renew my membership and I was ineligible for AAA for 5 years. I'm not kidding.
I don't get it either. I know several "Ford people" who have had nothing but trouble with them and they keep buying more. One was bragging on Ford and after we left their house I said to my wife, uh, aren't these the people that sued Ford because their car was a pile of junk? Or am I thinking of someone else? My wife says, yes, it's them! Just don't get it. If I had to sue any manufacturer that would be the last of their product I would ever buy.
John
All manufacturers have had recalls this year. Chrysler is just one of many. There are a few cars they make I would have no problems buying.
Originally Posted By: addyguy
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-dri...article1594673/
'Sticking accelerators'.....hmmmm, where have I heard THAT one before?
at lest they didnt run hack software and have the over rides programed in theirs, plus it is on about 25K units on Caliber for a 3 month window.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-dri...article1594673/
'Sticking accelerators'.....hmmmm, where have I heard THAT one before?
at lest they didnt run hack software and have the over rides programed in theirs, plus it is on about 25K units on Caliber for a 3 month window.
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Just to be clear: Those 600k vehicles were from THREE total recalls. Only one of those recalls was for sticking accelerators, representing 25k vehicles (or about 4% of the total).
Thanks for that small but important detail.
I love the fact that everyone is ignorant about Chryslers. It keeps the prices down for me when I want one!
"Honest opinion"? Seriously? From someone called Hyundai Guy?
Just to be clear: Those 600k vehicles were from THREE total recalls. Only one of those recalls was for sticking accelerators, representing 25k vehicles (or about 4% of the total).
Thanks for that small but important detail.
I love the fact that everyone is ignorant about Chryslers. It keeps the prices down for me when I want one!
"Honest opinion"? Seriously? From someone called Hyundai Guy?
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I have been a MOPAR guy my whole life as have been many in my family. I have personally owned a ton of new Chrysler/Doodge/Jeep vehicles and they have all been very reliable and a joy to own and drive. The only one that gave me any grief was a rebadged Mitsubishi and compared to the one Toyota I have owned( biggest lemon I have ever seen )it was a great vehicle.
As to transmissions. There isn't a mfg out there that hasn't had transmission issues. You can't build a transmission to be tough and last anymore due to restrictions on materials used. Just how it is. One of the best transmissions ever was the Chrysler 727TF so let's not beat up on Chrysler over transmissions now.
As to the recall 600,000 is not a ton of vehicles. As was pointed out earlier it is 600,000 in total for 3 recalls. Hardly an earth shaking indication of poor quality at Chrysler. I knew the 2nd I saw the news story on this that someone on this site would jump on the chance to use it to beat up on Chrysler. You just have to
Up to 285,000 = electrical system issue that could cause a short circuit in the latch for the sliding door which could cause a fire. Covers Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan minivans made in 2008-2009.
Up to 289,000 = Leaking brake fluid which could lead to brake failure. Covers Jeep Wranglers made from 2007-2010.
Up to 25,000 = Possible sticking accelerator pedals. Covers Dodge Caliber and Jeep Compass made in 2007.
As to transmissions. There isn't a mfg out there that hasn't had transmission issues. You can't build a transmission to be tough and last anymore due to restrictions on materials used. Just how it is. One of the best transmissions ever was the Chrysler 727TF so let's not beat up on Chrysler over transmissions now.
As to the recall 600,000 is not a ton of vehicles. As was pointed out earlier it is 600,000 in total for 3 recalls. Hardly an earth shaking indication of poor quality at Chrysler. I knew the 2nd I saw the news story on this that someone on this site would jump on the chance to use it to beat up on Chrysler. You just have to
Up to 285,000 = electrical system issue that could cause a short circuit in the latch for the sliding door which could cause a fire. Covers Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan minivans made in 2008-2009.
Up to 289,000 = Leaking brake fluid which could lead to brake failure. Covers Jeep Wranglers made from 2007-2010.
Up to 25,000 = Possible sticking accelerator pedals. Covers Dodge Caliber and Jeep Compass made in 2007.
600K vehicles is a lot for Chrysler. I think they are selling about 900K vehicles/year right now. If I recall it was about 930K vehicles for 2009.
So 600K vehicles IS a LOT for Chrysler to deal with. There are fewer dealers now as well.
So 600K vehicles IS a LOT for Chrysler to deal with. There are fewer dealers now as well.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I have been a MOPAR guy my whole life as have been many in my family. I have personally owned a ton of new Chrysler/Doodge/Jeep vehicles .
It is true that all makers have issues from time to time but I have worked at several Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep stores and I can tell you that transmissions in many Chrysler products including Dodge and Jeep have been troublesome for decades, I mean that seriously..I'll never forget when the new style Ram full size P/U trucks debuted in 1995..It was a nightmare almost everyone of those trucks including 1996 and some 1997 production needed to be replaced we literally had a huge storage building stacked to the ceiling with automatics because the redesign of the transmission used a float bearing value ball that was too soft and they proceeded to explode on almost every single 95-96 and lots of 97 Rams...there were lots of angry customers from contractors to private owners..it was a nightmare .
Then there were the blowing HG in almost all 95-98 Neons , another fiasco....
I think the best thing for Chrysler is to have been taken over by FIAT at this point, I do believe that Sergio Marchionne gets the desperate need for quality improvement in Chrysler products ...he has taken FIAT from almost at the bottom to being a solid contender with Opel, VW, Ford, which are some of the best of the best in the world now...
I have been a MOPAR guy my whole life as have been many in my family. I have personally owned a ton of new Chrysler/Doodge/Jeep vehicles .
It is true that all makers have issues from time to time but I have worked at several Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep stores and I can tell you that transmissions in many Chrysler products including Dodge and Jeep have been troublesome for decades, I mean that seriously..I'll never forget when the new style Ram full size P/U trucks debuted in 1995..It was a nightmare almost everyone of those trucks including 1996 and some 1997 production needed to be replaced we literally had a huge storage building stacked to the ceiling with automatics because the redesign of the transmission used a float bearing value ball that was too soft and they proceeded to explode on almost every single 95-96 and lots of 97 Rams...there were lots of angry customers from contractors to private owners..it was a nightmare .
Then there were the blowing HG in almost all 95-98 Neons , another fiasco....
I think the best thing for Chrysler is to have been taken over by FIAT at this point, I do believe that Sergio Marchionne gets the desperate need for quality improvement in Chrysler products ...he has taken FIAT from almost at the bottom to being a solid contender with Opel, VW, Ford, which are some of the best of the best in the world now...
[/Quote]I love the fact that everyone is ignorant about Chryslers. It keeps the prices down for me when I want one!..Honest opinion? Seriously? From someone called Hyundai Guy? [/Quote]
Yes, an honest opinion. According to J.D. Powers, Hyundai is currently number 4 in initial quality, behind Porsche, Lexus, and Cadillac. Hyundai is also number 1 in owner loyalty. No Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep product was even on the list. I did my research. In the past I have owned some very nice cars- a Porsche, 2 BMW's a VW Corrado SLC. The first BMW was the best of the bunch. I still wish I had it. As far as Hyundai, check out the 2011 Sonata. I have this one pegged for a top seller, as do most of the car mags- a seriously nice ride.
The Hyundai brand may not be appealing to some (a trait shared with Chrysler, actually.) But the cars seem to be built well, and the warranty can't be beat.
The reason you can buy your Chryslers so cheaply is because they are subsidized- they don't seem to sell well at all without large rebates or discounted financing (or both)..a good thing for you. Me? I look at it another way- a good price on a substandard product isn't a good deal.
I wish FIAT the best of luck with Chrysler, really. They do seem to make some fine cars now, and when they come back to the US, I hope they do well I am doubtful, however: Damlier (Mercedes) makes some fine cars, and they couldn't make it work.
Yes, an honest opinion. According to J.D. Powers, Hyundai is currently number 4 in initial quality, behind Porsche, Lexus, and Cadillac. Hyundai is also number 1 in owner loyalty. No Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep product was even on the list. I did my research. In the past I have owned some very nice cars- a Porsche, 2 BMW's a VW Corrado SLC. The first BMW was the best of the bunch. I still wish I had it. As far as Hyundai, check out the 2011 Sonata. I have this one pegged for a top seller, as do most of the car mags- a seriously nice ride.
The Hyundai brand may not be appealing to some (a trait shared with Chrysler, actually.) But the cars seem to be built well, and the warranty can't be beat.
The reason you can buy your Chryslers so cheaply is because they are subsidized- they don't seem to sell well at all without large rebates or discounted financing (or both)..a good thing for you. Me? I look at it another way- a good price on a substandard product isn't a good deal.
I wish FIAT the best of luck with Chrysler, really. They do seem to make some fine cars now, and when they come back to the US, I hope they do well I am doubtful, however: Damlier (Mercedes) makes some fine cars, and they couldn't make it work.
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
"Honest opinion"? Seriously? From someone called Hyundai Guy?
And his opinion is any less because of that? Maybe you should understand why he calls himself Hyundai guy now...
"Honest opinion"? Seriously? From someone called Hyundai Guy?
And his opinion is any less because of that? Maybe you should understand why he calls himself Hyundai guy now...
Originally Posted By: HyundaiGuy
The best engine they ever made, in my opinion, was the 225 slant 6. Not a powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination, but reliable as the day is long.
Awhile back I had some friends that had Dusters and Darts with the 225 slant 6...It never let them down and they were not babied either.
I am waiting to see how the 5.7 Hemi holds up in the 300...I have 2 friends who own one [07's with the 5.7] so far all is well at 35K mles.
The best engine they ever made, in my opinion, was the 225 slant 6. Not a powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination, but reliable as the day is long.
Awhile back I had some friends that had Dusters and Darts with the 225 slant 6...It never let them down and they were not babied either.
I am waiting to see how the 5.7 Hemi holds up in the 300...I have 2 friends who own one [07's with the 5.7] so far all is well at 35K mles.
Originally Posted By: HyundaiGuy
I wish FIAT the best of luck with Chrysler, really. They do seem to make some fine cars now, and when they come back to the US, I hope they do well I am doubtful, however: Damlier (Mercedes) makes some fine cars, and they couldn't make it work.
The problem with the Daimler-Chrysler merger was that it was a a wedding made at the shareholders behest, it wasn't about cars at all, and that was a HUGE mistake!
This takeover is a very good fit for both Chrysler and FIAT both sell affordable products, Chrysler knows trucks, FIAT knows cars.....FIAT has the infrastructure, money, and resources for Chrysler to develop innovate products well with quality..I think it is a really good fit that I believe will become quite successful to the surprise of many in the automotive business...it's one of those things where the "experts" will be found to be wrong. Thankfully.
If you look at the car stable at FIAT they have tons of good interesting product that has become quite reliable to boot...
Also Chrysler was always known in the USA as the leader in design FIAT clearly has that aspect in its line up, from the excellent and cheeky Cinquecento to the really sexy Alfa Mito...I can't wait to see this stuff in the USA . I would consider a Punto Grande, Mito, or Conquecento anyday.
I wish FIAT the best of luck with Chrysler, really. They do seem to make some fine cars now, and when they come back to the US, I hope they do well I am doubtful, however: Damlier (Mercedes) makes some fine cars, and they couldn't make it work.
The problem with the Daimler-Chrysler merger was that it was a a wedding made at the shareholders behest, it wasn't about cars at all, and that was a HUGE mistake!
This takeover is a very good fit for both Chrysler and FIAT both sell affordable products, Chrysler knows trucks, FIAT knows cars.....FIAT has the infrastructure, money, and resources for Chrysler to develop innovate products well with quality..I think it is a really good fit that I believe will become quite successful to the surprise of many in the automotive business...it's one of those things where the "experts" will be found to be wrong. Thankfully.
If you look at the car stable at FIAT they have tons of good interesting product that has become quite reliable to boot...
Also Chrysler was always known in the USA as the leader in design FIAT clearly has that aspect in its line up, from the excellent and cheeky Cinquecento to the really sexy Alfa Mito...I can't wait to see this stuff in the USA . I would consider a Punto Grande, Mito, or Conquecento anyday.
My family and I have owned a ton of Chrysler products throughout the 80s and 90s, and all of them held up extremely well. We never had a transmission or internal engine issue. I am talking K-cars, Neons, Cloud cars and Jeeps. After the Diamler buyout, I really didn't like a lot of their designs, and I was really turned off by how they handled the 2.7 sludge issue.
I would consider one in the future, but right now there is nothing they really make that excites me.
They never were as bad as people made them out to be, and never had the Ford/Chevy fanboys that the other 2 domestic brands picked up.
I would consider one in the future, but right now there is nothing they really make that excites me.
They never were as bad as people made them out to be, and never had the Ford/Chevy fanboys that the other 2 domestic brands picked up.
come on steve, and nhhemi -- we must play nice with another self proclaimed expert on chrysler products -- after, he is a veteran bitoger of about 4 weeks.as well, our esteemed rookie bitoger has owned a porsche, and 2 bmw's, and is now a hyundai fan. therefore, he must know cars, and we must respect his opinion. welcome to bitog, hyundai fan.
a female friend is a self proclaimed expert on cars, and she cannot even open the hood of her car. she has a funny line asking why anyone would buy a hyundai or a kia, since those names belong on a microwave.
vizzy --you state "...blowing HG in 'almost all' 95-98 neons" -- and a transmission part exploded on "almost every single" 95-96 ram.right.self proclaimed experts and people who exaggerate make me laugh, and are part of why bitog amuses me -- there are so many of them here.to those that fall into these categories -- keep up the good work.
a female friend is a self proclaimed expert on cars, and she cannot even open the hood of her car. she has a funny line asking why anyone would buy a hyundai or a kia, since those names belong on a microwave.
vizzy --you state "...blowing HG in 'almost all' 95-98 neons" -- and a transmission part exploded on "almost every single" 95-96 ram.right.self proclaimed experts and people who exaggerate make me laugh, and are part of why bitog amuses me -- there are so many of them here.to those that fall into these categories -- keep up the good work.
Originally Posted By: yeti
vizzy --you state "...blowing HG in 'almost all' 95-98 neons" -- and a transmission part exploded on "almost every single" 95-96 ram.right.self proclaimed experts and people who exaggerate make me laugh, and are part of why bitog amuses me -- there are so many of them here.to those that fall into these categories -- keep up the good work.
yeti....I wish I was wrong...because I really did like a lot of the Chrysler products especially the MKI Neon...but the durability was not there on many products. I don't think it is that bad anymore, but there is still a lot of room for improvement...The worst thing that happened to Chrysler was when that s(umbag Chrysler CEO Eagan merged Chrysler with Daimler so he and his scuzzy friends could walk away with hundreds of millions when they left....
vizzy --you state "...blowing HG in 'almost all' 95-98 neons" -- and a transmission part exploded on "almost every single" 95-96 ram.right.self proclaimed experts and people who exaggerate make me laugh, and are part of why bitog amuses me -- there are so many of them here.to those that fall into these categories -- keep up the good work.
yeti....I wish I was wrong...because I really did like a lot of the Chrysler products especially the MKI Neon...but the durability was not there on many products. I don't think it is that bad anymore, but there is still a lot of room for improvement...The worst thing that happened to Chrysler was when that s(umbag Chrysler CEO Eagan merged Chrysler with Daimler so he and his scuzzy friends could walk away with hundreds of millions when they left....
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I have a 2004 Neon that I bought new and I had to replace a headlight bulb! Dam Chrysler and their garbage, how dare they sell junk like this that only went 165,000 miles with zero problems and now needs a light bulb, I've had it, I'll never buy another Chrysler product.
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Originally Posted By: HyundaiGuy
Yes, an honest opinion. According to J.D. Powers, Hyundai is currently number 4 in initial quality, behind Porsche, Lexus, and Cadillac. Hyundai is also number 1 in owner loyalty. No Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep product was even on the list. I did my research. In the past I have owned some very nice cars- a Porsche, 2 BMW's a VW Corrado SLC. The first BMW was the best of the bunch. I still wish I had it. As far as Hyundai, check out the 2011 Sonata. I have this one pegged for a top seller, as do most of the car mags- a seriously nice ride.
The Hyundai brand may not be appealing to some (a trait shared with Chrysler, actually.) But the cars seem to be built well, and the warranty can't be beat.
The reason you can buy your Chryslers so cheaply is because they are subsidized- they don't seem to sell well at all without large rebates or discounted financing (or both)..a good thing for you. Me? I look at it another way- a good price on a substandard product isn't a good deal.
I wish FIAT the best of luck with Chrysler, really. They do seem to make some fine cars now, and when they come back to the US, I hope they do well I am doubtful, however: Damlier (Mercedes) makes some fine cars, and they couldn't make it work.
Oh lord, another person using a car magazine ranking/customer satisfaction poll to somehow justify their point.
You really don't think those rankings mean anything do you? Please tell me you don't. Those car magazines, despite claims of being consumer based or no agenda, ALL have biases and agendas. I wouldn't wipe my butt with an article from JD Powers let alone use it( or any car magazine )to determine what vehicle I should buy. If you base your opinions on what they say, or what they say others say( ie; consumers ), you are being foolish. Research vehicles by speaking with real owners not these phantom owners these car magazines supposedly base their rankings and reviews on. OY!
I have a news flash for you from someone who has owned a lot of new Chrysler products dating back to the 80's. Their vehicles are just fine. No major problems at all. 1 Starter, 1 AC Line, and then standard maintenance is pretty much it for ALL of the vehicles from them I have had. Well, the rebadged Mitsubishi did blow a head gasket but it was fixed right off at no charge. Just no problems with the vehicles from Chrysler at all. I laugh when people say they make lousy products. They make vehicles as good as ANY mfg out there. They have some in their lineup that are not as good as others but what mfg does not?
BTW - Daimler didn't try and make it work to be accurate. They merged with Chrysler for ONE reason and that was to syphon off the BILLIONS( yes it was BILLIONS )in cash reserves Chrysler had. When Daimler took over Chrysler was in the best shape of any car mfg( selling in NA anyway ).Daimler bled them dry and then dumped then on Cerberus who just did nothing. About the only good that came from the merger was the 300 series cars.
Also, for the record, my new Chrysler product came with a lifetime power train warranty. I would say that is pretty good.
Yes, an honest opinion. According to J.D. Powers, Hyundai is currently number 4 in initial quality, behind Porsche, Lexus, and Cadillac. Hyundai is also number 1 in owner loyalty. No Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep product was even on the list. I did my research. In the past I have owned some very nice cars- a Porsche, 2 BMW's a VW Corrado SLC. The first BMW was the best of the bunch. I still wish I had it. As far as Hyundai, check out the 2011 Sonata. I have this one pegged for a top seller, as do most of the car mags- a seriously nice ride.
The Hyundai brand may not be appealing to some (a trait shared with Chrysler, actually.) But the cars seem to be built well, and the warranty can't be beat.
The reason you can buy your Chryslers so cheaply is because they are subsidized- they don't seem to sell well at all without large rebates or discounted financing (or both)..a good thing for you. Me? I look at it another way- a good price on a substandard product isn't a good deal.
I wish FIAT the best of luck with Chrysler, really. They do seem to make some fine cars now, and when they come back to the US, I hope they do well I am doubtful, however: Damlier (Mercedes) makes some fine cars, and they couldn't make it work.
Oh lord, another person using a car magazine ranking/customer satisfaction poll to somehow justify their point.
You really don't think those rankings mean anything do you? Please tell me you don't. Those car magazines, despite claims of being consumer based or no agenda, ALL have biases and agendas. I wouldn't wipe my butt with an article from JD Powers let alone use it( or any car magazine )to determine what vehicle I should buy. If you base your opinions on what they say, or what they say others say( ie; consumers ), you are being foolish. Research vehicles by speaking with real owners not these phantom owners these car magazines supposedly base their rankings and reviews on. OY!
I have a news flash for you from someone who has owned a lot of new Chrysler products dating back to the 80's. Their vehicles are just fine. No major problems at all. 1 Starter, 1 AC Line, and then standard maintenance is pretty much it for ALL of the vehicles from them I have had. Well, the rebadged Mitsubishi did blow a head gasket but it was fixed right off at no charge. Just no problems with the vehicles from Chrysler at all. I laugh when people say they make lousy products. They make vehicles as good as ANY mfg out there. They have some in their lineup that are not as good as others but what mfg does not?
BTW - Daimler didn't try and make it work to be accurate. They merged with Chrysler for ONE reason and that was to syphon off the BILLIONS( yes it was BILLIONS )in cash reserves Chrysler had. When Daimler took over Chrysler was in the best shape of any car mfg( selling in NA anyway ).Daimler bled them dry and then dumped then on Cerberus who just did nothing. About the only good that came from the merger was the 300 series cars.
Also, for the record, my new Chrysler product came with a lifetime power train warranty. I would say that is pretty good.
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