Chrysler Cars OK ??

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Originally Posted By: lovcom
In the last 20 years, our family has owned no less then 8 Chrysler products, and every single one had major problems with reliability before 50,000 miles.

Chrysler makes the worse cars sold in America. Even the Korean makes do better. Chrysler is long past their supremacy of the 1960's and before that. Today, and relatively speaking, Chrysler makes junk. The only ones that can't face this are those that own Chrysler products, because to face this fact means admitting they chose the dummy brand. Time and time again, when compared to same category other makes, Chrysler has the worse MPG, the worse reliability, the worse dependability, and the worse resale value.

I find it exceedingly funny that someone will think Chryslers are good because they had a good experience with their one or few Chrysler products, while ignoring the massive millions that would say otherwise.

And now Chrysler wants to merge with Europe's 'Chrysler" Fiat...two losers team together to lose even bigger....


As I posted a few pages back I'm on my second Chrysler vehicle that I bought new, I've owned several before them that I bought used and none have given me major trouble.

I was an ASE certified master auto tech and I used to fix cars everyday for a living and I've worked on just about every brand. I am still a mechanic but working on transport vehicles of a different type. I quit working on cars because I'd rather get paid more for doing less, you could say I'm lazy. On my days off the last place I want to be is under the hood of a car. Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?
 
Originally Posted By: ms21043
Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?


Only good reason I can think of is you haven't been brainwashed by Toyota yet.
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Originally Posted By: ms21043
Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?


Because you think for yourself instead of letting the massive millions do your thinking for you?
 
I've had a 92 Dakota 94 Caravan and a 05 Grand Caravan. I did have to have the tranny rebuilt on the 94 at 100,000 miles. Generally I've had decent luck with them although the 05 has already had a water pump and EGR valve changed at 50000 miles, which I understand isn't a surprise. We had a 95 Neon that my daughter has had for about 7 or 8 years now and they just sold it to her husbands sister yesterday. Actually he admits that it gets better gas milage than their 04 Neon. The car has been pretty much problem free. I just bought a new Mazda 3 and the main reason I went with them instead of another Mopar was because I'm doubtful of Mopar being around in a few years. Too much money to be laying out just to have someone say a few years from now that honoring the warranty or getting parts is hard to get.
 
Originally Posted By: crinkles
i always wanted a chrysler neon as a teenager. dunno hwy.


I test drove one for a friend once. It was a fun little car. Way too small for me to drive personally, though. I like my land yachts.
 
Originally Posted By: ms21043
lovcom said:
Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?



That is a good question because MOST ASE mechanics do NOT drive Chrysler products, so a better question is: Why do you ignore the massive evidence that all ASE mechanics know, and which causes them to buy other brands?
 
Originally Posted By: bretfraz
Originally Posted By: ms21043
Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?


Because you think for yourself instead of letting the massive millions do your thinking for you?


So says a 30 year smoker that just got diagnosed with lung cancer.....yea sure, he "did his own thinking" by ignoring the massive evidence....you go right ahead and keep "thinking"...
 
Pretty much all of the professional mechanics I worked with drove a beater that one of their customers left with them or they found cheap. I can't recall any of them driving a new vehicle, most of them didn't care, could fix it themselves, and knew the interior would get trashed with grease and stains from commuting to work.
 
Originally Posted By: lovcom
Originally Posted By: ms21043
lovcom said:
Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?



That is a good question because MOST ASE mechanics do NOT drive Chrysler products, so a better question is: Why do you ignore the massive evidence that all ASE mechanics know, and which causes them to buy other brands?



If you follow that logic than we should all use valvoline conventional because dont you know that more ASE certified mechanics choose valvoline!

Also if you follow that logic we should all start drinking black velvet whisky and steel reserve malt liquor because dont you know more alchoholics choose steel reserve and black velvet whisky!
 
seriously though I've bought a dodge ram 1500 and a jeep wrangler jk. Both have been my favorite cars to drive. Dont really know why but I just love the way they drive especially my ram. On the other hand if you ever have to go to the dealer I havent had very good experiance. I also called their customer service line because when I bought my wrangler I went outside to plug in my engine block heater that was listed on their website as a standard feature and suprise no engine block heater!!! I called them and after being bounced around by punjab talked to an american that was so rude and told me that "I see the list of standard features, but I also see our disclaimer at the bottom of the screen" I was so [censored]!!!!! I consider my self a huge fan of chrystler products and for them to do that just made me soo mad! I told her that now I see why they are going bankrupt.
 
Originally Posted By: lovcom


That is a good question because MOST ASE mechanics do NOT drive Chrysler products, so a better question is: Why do you ignore the massive evidence that all ASE mechanics know, and which causes them to buy other brands?



You know all these ASE tech's personally or something? Where is proof of these claims please?

Hands down the most reliable new vehicles I have ever owned were Chrysler products( Dodge Rams ). The worst was a Toyota.

I think you need a time out.
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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: lovcom


That is a good question because MOST ASE mechanics do NOT drive Chrysler products, so a better question is: Why do you ignore the massive evidence that all ASE mechanics know, and which causes them to buy other brands?



You know all these ASE tech's personally or something? Where is proof of these claims please?

Hands down the most reliable new vehicles I have ever owned were Chrysler products( Dodge Rams ). The worst was a Toyota.

I think you need a time out.
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No doubt. I think lovcum has his panties in a wad.
 
Originally Posted By: lovcom
Originally Posted By: ms21043
lovcom said:
Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?



That is a good question because MOST ASE mechanics do NOT drive Chrysler products, so a better question is: Why do you ignore the massive evidence that all ASE mechanics know, and which causes them to buy other brands?



You know what would good since I seem to be ignorant in your opinion, why don't you point us to a brand of car that never breaks. While you're at it please point us the survey that shows what most ASE mechanics drive. As far as I can tell mechanics drive what ever they feel like, but who knows, I may have missed something on the internet while I was working on the multitudes of broken vehicles of EVERY make that rolled into the shop.
 
Here's my experience:

'05 SRT4 - 50k so far - left front wheel bearing
'95 Ram 2500 - 120k so far - no problems
'93 Duster - 175k - no problems other than annoying oil leaks - still have
'86 Daytona TurboZ CS - 175k - alternator, front half-shaft, window regulator - destroyed in rear end collision

My parents:

'06 Sebring (w/dreaded 2.7) - not sure how many miles - no problems
'98 Cirrus - 120k when sold - no problems but they got rid of it because they are afraid any car is going to fall apart if over 100k miles
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'94 Spirit - not sure of the mileage but over 100k when sold - no problems other than a clogged fuel pickup screen
'92 Ram 150 - transmission rebuild (OD grenaded) at 9?k - sold at 120k
'87 Ram 150 - no problems - no idea about the mileage - probably not much more than 100k
'78 Horizon - don't remember specifics but this car fell apart as soon as the warranty ran out (which, incidentally, led to the purchase of an '84 Civic which also had a ton of problems)
 
Originally Posted By: mstrjon32
Originally Posted By: ms21043
Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?


Only good reason I can think of is you haven't been brainwashed by Toyota yet.
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Buy a Toyota, become an OCD know-it-all overnight.
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
Buy a Toyota, become an OCD know-it-all overnight.


The process still takes all night? Those slackers.
 
Originally Posted By: lovcom

So says a 30 year smoker that just got diagnosed with lung cancer.....


Yeah...but the burning question here is " Was he driving a Chrysler while smoking?" You may be onto something here....Chryslers & cigarettes cause lung cancer...
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Originally Posted By: brianl703
Originally Posted By: mstrjon32
Originally Posted By: ms21043
Now why would I, a mechanic who doesn't like to work on his own car, buy a Chrysler?


Only good reason I can think of is you haven't been brainwashed by Toyota yet.
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Buy a Toyota, become an OCD know-it-all overnight.


Yeah but I was OCD when I bought the Toyota...
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But my Chryslers were about the same reliability...just didn't like the new styling with the HUGE large mouth bass grille.
 
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01 town and country
- airbag "clock spring" at 35,000 miles.
- drivers window motor at 60,000 miles.
Great car, but sold it due to issues w/ front seats crushing 2nd row children in rear-end collisions. Lots of out-of-court settlements from chrysler. But besides that fear, great car, towed well, no trans issues in 80,000 miles.

95 LHS (in law's car-- we used for a year)
- inner tie rod bushings crack and fail every 40,000 miles or so. Made car VERY hard to control. I've read they could sometimes release the tie rod completely. Due to rack placement (it's way unique) it was a 4-5 hour job to replace, book time.
When it ran, was a blast to drive. Ate 2 a/c compressors and regularly threw the PS belt for unknown reasons.

93 Jeep GC. true Jeep owners are a different breed and love the quirks of their vehicles. Mine had issues, it was old when I bought it, I loved it.

08 Jeep GC. Drives like a chrysler. Engine sounds like a rattle can at 8,000 miles. Sheet metal gaps are poorly mated. I don't enjoy this one like I did the '93. Suspension travel is good for oem - does what I need it to do.

We had a 94 sundance years ago. Leaked oil at 60,000 but was simple, reliable.

compared to
- 02 accord: 0 problems, sold at 90,000 miles
- 97 legacy: busted hazard flasher switch, engine front oil seal (well-known for that model), sold at 112,000 miles
- 97 pathfinder: warranty-repaired exhaust manifold, intermittent electrical problems, flimsy carpet, crummy for towing, sold ~ 100,000 miles
- 99 crv: 0 problems but AT was acting funny when sold - 90,000 miles

I can't say my personal experience with chrysler has been that bad-- more problems than other makes but not hugely more for the periods we've owned them. Some models are plagued with specific issues (LHS above, google jeep blend doors...) but obviously I bought the 08 jeep, so a. I'm ok with the reliability; b. being a jeep owner I may tolerate quirks ok so maybe am not the most picky.

Meep!!
 
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