Chinese Plant Relocates to 'Merica!

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Meet the Chinese Billionaire Who's Moving Manufacturing to the U.S. to Cut Costs
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Wang Zhou-Imaginechina Cao Dewang, center, Chairman of Fuyao Group and Chairman of Fuyao Glass Industry Group Co., is interviewed as he arrives at the Great Hall of the People

While it has been said for a long time that the U.S. is bleeding manufacturing jobs overseas, particularly to China, some businesses have been moving operations the other way round.

And now, the head of a leading Chinese glass maker making the same move has openly questioned if his country really is such a lucrative destination for offshore factories, reports Hong Kong newspaper the South China Morning Post.

Overall speaking, the tax burden for manufacturers in China is 35% higher than in the U.S., Cao Dewang told China Business Networkin an interview. He added that a combination of cheap land, reasonable energy prices and other incentives means that, despite higher manufacturing costs, he can still make more money by making glass in the U.S. than by exporting Chinese-made panes to the U.S. market.

His company, Fuyao Glass, has invested over $1 billion stateside, according to the Post, the most significant move of which is opening its U.S. factory in the Ohio town of Moraine, a suburb of Dayton, back in October. The glass maker is re-purposing the town's former General Motors assembly that had been standing empty since late 2008, as the Dayton Daily News reports.

According to Ohio TV station WDTN, the plant now employs a workforce of almost 2,000, and Cao expects that the fully operational facility will employ up to 3,000 workers.

Wage and transportation costs are getting higher in China, Cao says. Compared with four years ago, labor wages [in China] today have tripled, he told China Business Network. Meanwhile, transportation in the U.S. costs the equivalent of less than one yuan ($) per kilometer, while road tolls [in China] are higher, he added, pointing out that some mid- and small-sized Chinese enterprises have already started moving to Southeast Asian countries like Vietnam and Cambodia for cheaper wages and materials.

Fuyao is not the first Chinese business making the move across the Pacific in recent years. According to the Wall Street Journal, Chinese companies invested over $20 billion in the U.S. last year -from a practically nonexistent total investment back in 2006.

And yet, it would probably be mistaken to write off the world's second largest economy as a manufacturing powerhouse once and for all. As Fortune reported in early December, the latest data indicates that China's manufacturing sector is in its strongest position in some years, buttressing the country's economic growth along the way.

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China is one of the most expensive places to get freight shipped out of.
Taiwan was always half the price or less.( I used to import machine tools) Add in all of the duties and red tape it would be cheaper to build it here although many would argue. With China you have to buy big or it isn't worth the expense. I also had issues with arrogance dealing with the Chinese. of course back in the 90's a lathe would cost $800 more from Taiwan but the quality was superb and the Chinese machines were not worth buying. Of course many Taiwan factories now sub out to the Chinese and it is a different game now.
 
China is also rich with something else - citizens who speak English - so that makes deals like this work both ways ...
 
Possibly fewer "red envelopes" have to be deployed than in the old country.

Don't know that for a fact, but it seems quite likely.
 
Will the factory use U.S. workers or import Chinese workers as made possible by the TPP treaty. That is the question.
 
China is limited by their infrastructure being mostly on the coast. The cheap land is in the interior, but there's no infrastructure or population there. They also suffer from only having so many seaports on their one coast, and capacity in those ports. Over here, we have plenty of infrastructure and population in the interior, easy access to ports on both coasts, and cheap land nearby that infrastructure. US workers get jobs and the company makes more money.
 
I would guess many also are not fond of the pollution.
They shut down a few days ago because of it.
 
Depending on the product and skills required there is definitely advantages to moving to the US. One of the big reasons for a Chinese company moving to the US is to gain the knowledge of the US workforce and experts. For example, when Whirlpool shut down it's facility in Evansville, IN, Haier moved right in an built a tech center to give jobs to those who had lost theirs. A "Win-Win," Haier got to quickly gain experience and workers were able to get similar jobs without having to move.

Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
I would guess many also are not fond of the pollution.
They shut down a few days ago because of it.


The pollution can be a funny thing in China. When I was in Beijing for a couple weeks the air was actually cleaner than back home in Indiana. Of course, then it can turn the other direction just as quickly where you can't see down the street.

Originally Posted By: sciphi
China is limited by their infrastructure being mostly on the coast. The cheap land is in the interior, but there's no infrastructure or population there. They also suffer from only having so many seaports on their one coast, and capacity in those ports. Over here, we have plenty of infrastructure and population in the interior, easy access to ports on both coasts, and cheap land nearby that infrastructure. US workers get jobs and the company makes more money.


That's a big problem facing China. They have tons of infrastructure in the interior and massive cities built that no one lives in. As they keep building out their high speed rail network and interior airports it will get much easier to convince people to move to these Ghost Towns and then get goods out of them. Running a capitalist-like economy with a communist political system is definitely an interesting experiment.
 
Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
Besides Trump getting elected, I have to wonder how hard it is to ship glass as well.


Seems a reasonable question. Also, will fuel stay cheap? I thought there was a movement to ban bunker fuel, at least in some shipping ports. Raise the shipping cost and perhaps it becomes better to use more expensive labor so as to save on shipping.
 
As a Daytonian, this is one of the best things that has happened to us in years. GM leaving ruined our city.
 
Recently I made 11 international flights in a month. One connection was in Beijing - the entire descent was eerie - mile after mile of box shaped buildings like LEGO blocks. The air was so filthy the whole image was like an old brown and white photo from 1850 - but faded from great grandma storing in attic ... glad it was just a connection onward through the smog.
 
A good news story for a change.

Problems with trends (like the relocation of industry, property etc.) is that they gather too much momentum, and nobody realises that the tide SHOULD turn (or slow/stop), until it becomes glaringly obvious to a few...like this guy.

There are some benefits to Chinese ownership as an employee, in that in my experience, they have some strong Q.A. and project management focus.
 
It could be a move to simply stem the tide of all of the Chinese negativity here.
Also no easier way to sell your wares than directly to the target consumers..........
I hope states don't give away everything to get questionable deals. Time will tell.

Plus it is easier to steal trade secrets when you live in the neighborhood......
 
There were some nice old bits of Beijing, but they knocked most of them down for the Olympics.

Chinese really like concrete. Give them a bit of countryside, and a budget, and they'll cover it in the stuff, needed or not.
 
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