Saudi Arabia ditches US dollar and will NOT renew the 50 year 'petro-dollar' agreement with the United States.

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There was just an article out about how there'll be a glut of oil at the end of the decade thanks to renewables. If there's a glut, then Saudis don't matter. Whooptie doo for them.
There is already a glut

Saudi needs oil to be > $90 to pay for all the things they wish to pay for. They prefer $95. Oil has been below that for years. Saudi is currently holding back 1 Billion barrels a day in self imposed production cuts to prop the price of oil up where its at.
 
Back when "greenbacks" came out they had a legal tender law saying they were good for paying your taxes. There was still plenty of silver around so people would trade silver for greenbacks to pay their taxes. Ha! Shows Uncle Sam! The arbitrage was only a couple percent.

If you think the US dollar or the people behind it have issues, find a currency that doesn't.

There was just an article out about how there'll be a glut of oil at the end of the decade thanks to renewables. If there's a glut, then Saudis don't matter. Whooptie doo for them.
The result of this has less to do with the trading of oil, and more to do with the growing pressure on the USD as the world's reserve currency. If one can trade oil for a currency other than the USD, one can also trade grains, soybeans, and a whole other list of goods and services with a currency other than the USD.
 
The result of this has less to do with the trading of oil, and more to do with the growing pressure on the USD as the world's reserve currency. If one can trade oil for a currency other than the USD, one can also trade grains, soybeans, and a whole other list of goods and services with a currency other than the USD.
The USD is the world's reserve currency because its instantly convertible to any other currency. Nothing is actually paid for in dollars, its paid for in "euro-dollars" which is a weird contract term that simply means a contract written where the standard unit of exchange is in dollar terms. No dollars actually change hands.

If I am in China and wish to by Oil from Saudi, I go to a bank which does the exchange rate from Yuan to Dollars then Riyal to dollars, then does the math and tells everyone how much to pay. And takes their cut. The dollars get stored at the respective countries central banks. No dollars actually changed hands between the private parties.

There now skipping the bank. The Central bank will need to hold less dollars, so that is important. But no one wants to hold Yuan or Riyal either. So that has not changed.

The US dollar will die over time like all Fiat currencies, but its self induced.
 
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Saudi Arabia will now sell oil in multiple currencies, including the Chinese RMB, Euros, Yen, and Yuan, instead of exclusively in US dollars.
Russia has enforced an immediate suspension of trading in U.S. dollars on its stock exchange.
(George Papadopoulos)

The significance of Saudi Arabia not renewing the petro dollar agreement is multifaceted and has implications for both global economic and geopolitical dynamics. Here's a breakdown of why this is important:

1. **Impact on the U.S. Dollar**: The petrodollar system, which was established in the 1970s, has been a significant factor in maintaining the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency. Under this system, Saudi Arabia and other oil-producing countries agreed to sell their oil in U.S. dollars, which increased global demand for the dollar. With the agreement not being renewed, there could be a decrease in global demand for the U.S. dollar, potentially weakening its value.

2. **Geopolitical Realignment**: The petrodollar agreement was not just an economic arrangement but also a geopolitical one. It was part of a broader alliance between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, which included military and political support from the U.S. to Saudi Arabia. The decision not to renew the agreement could signal a shift in Saudi Arabia's geopolitical alignments, possibly moving closer to other global powers like China and Russia, who have been advocating for a shift away from the U.S. dollar in international trade.

3. **Economic Impact**: For the U.S., the end of the petrodollar agreement could lead to higher oil prices and inflation. Since oil is priced in dollars, a weaker dollar would make oil more expensive. This could lead to higher costs for businesses and consumers, potentially slowing down economic growth.

4. **Financial Market Impact**: The U.S. financial markets, which have benefited from the global demand for U.S. dollars and U.S. debt, could be negatively impacted. If there's less demand for U.S. dollars, there could be less demand for U.S. government bonds, which are a key part of the global financial system.

5. **Shift in Global Power Dynamics**: The petrodollar agreement was a key part of the U.S.'s economic and geopolitical power. Its end could signal a shift in global power dynamics, with other countries and currencies potentially gaining more influence.

6. **Opportunity for Other Currencies**: With the petrodollar agreement ending, there could be an opportunity for other currencies, like the Chinese yuan or the Russian ruble, to gain more prominence in global oil trade. This could accelerate the ongoing trend of de-dollarization in global trade.
In summary, the end of the petrodollar agreement is a significant event with potential economic, geopolitical, and financial market implications. It could lead to a weaker U.S. dollar, higher oil prices, and a shift in global power dynamics.

The agreement lapsed on June 9th. The issue with Russia is due to additional sanctions where Russians who keep their account balances dominated in USD will now have to convert them into Rubles via OTC. It adds a layer of inconvenience.
 
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The result of this has less to do with the trading of oil, and more to do with the growing pressure on the USD as the world's reserve currency. If one can trade oil for a currency other than the USD, one can also trade grains, soybeans, and a whole other list of goods and services with a currency other than the USD.
There's no growing pressure on the USD. For example, central banks worldwide (other than The Fed) are beginning to reduce interest rates. The USD, compared to all other currencies, is still the most stable. The Euro is not far behind. The market will naturally trade in the most stable currencies as they will have the lowest risk premiums.

Now what this will eventually do down the road is, to some degree, reduce the ability of the US to deploy economic sanctions against other countries.
 
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There was an op-ed back in 2003, around the time of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, saying that if Saudi Arabia had actually opposed American policy, they (the Saudis) would have broken petrodollar agreement. The writer went on to point out the ensuing negative consequences this would have for the U.S. (Sorry, I don't remember the source.)

I'm not sure I agree with this conclusion; I could see increased oil production in the U.S. and Canada as a result, with ensuing economic growth and productivity.

Mods, please delete this post if I'm getting to close to politics.
 
The agreement lapsed on June 9th. The issue with Russia is due to additional sanctions where Russians who keep their account balances dominated in USD will now have to convert them into Rubles via OTC. It adds a layer of inconvenience.
The taxi medallion trade ability in NYC is an example of what happens when other options (Uber/ Lyft) come to a market when only one MACRO option was available prior (NYC Taxi). What effect on the USD will happen when the "Uber Option" is used for alternates as the USD for the world's reserve currency........

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The taxi medallion trade ability in NYC is an example of what happens when other options (Uber/ Lyft) come to a market when only one MACRO option was available prior (NYC Taxi). What effect on the USD will happen when the "Uber Option" is used for alternates as the USD for the world's reserve currency........
Your depiction is accurate, except there is no other alternate to the USD.

No one wants currency from 3rd world despots.

The euro was supposed to be this alternate but has its own problems.

The cleanest dirty shirt in the suitcase.
 
The taxi medallion trade ability in NYC is an example of what happens when other options (Uber/ Lyft) come to a market when only one MACRO option was available prior (NYC Taxi). What effect on the USD will happen when the "Uber Option" is used for alternates as the USD for the world's reserve currency........

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IMO this isn't analogous because unlike the USD there is a finite number of medallions available in NYC.
 
Your depiction is accurate, except there is no other alternate to the USD.

No one wants currency from 3rd world despots.

The euro was supposed to be this alternate but has its own problems.

The cleanest dirty shirt in the suitcase.
Iraqi Dinar will be a leader in the new Brics currency backed by gold.
 
Your depiction is accurate, except there is no other alternate to the USD.

No one wants currency from 3rd world despots.

The euro was supposed to be this alternate but has its own problems.

The cleanest dirty shirt in the suitcase.

Bingo. USD is still the best looking girl at the dance by far.

Happy for the Saudis and every other country to pick up the tab for protecting oil and oil transit going forward.

The petrodollar standard insured global protection, without that, this bill is split between the seller and the buyer.
 
It appears the Saudi's know something we don't.
The world is now multipolar and this move has been in the works for the past 4-5 years. That's why the central banks are buying gold like crazy. The weaponizing of the USD and the theft of the $300 billion from Russia in 2022 didn't help.

I would expect more and more countries to pivot away from the USD.
 
Your depiction is accurate, except there is no other alternate to the USD.

No one wants currency from 3rd world despots.

The euro was supposed to be this alternate but has its own problems.

The cleanest dirty shirt in the suitcase.
Unfortunately, we are looking more and more like 3rd world despots ourselves. The alternatives to the USD will be created, not today or tomorrow but soon enough, if we stay the same course. Unfortunately, I don't think we can reverse what we are doing. We have painted ourselves into a corner.
 
You guys fell for fake news, The agreement automatically renews every 5 years. Saudi Arabia has not declared non renewing.
Notice how their is not anything on mainstream news?
 
You guys fell for fake news, The agreement automatically renews every 5 years. Saudi Arabia has not declared non renewing.
Notice how their is not anything on mainstream news?
This. Mainly this "news" was appearing on memes and screenshots. Tip: anything from ifunny.co is automatically suspect. Lots of fake stuff in memes.

Even if the Saudis did decide not to renew the currency agreement, the US isn't getting much oil from them anyway. We were actually exporting oil a few years ago, remember?
 
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