Chinese made how bad can it be?

[bigsplash]

Originally Posted By: Hootbro

Sorry, but that is one of the most poorly written articles I have ever seen. Where are the photos, case examples or any other evidence other than them just saying it is bad?

Not denying their claims, but they are not making their case.


How is this for a case Hub Fail OUCH!

 

[Hootbro]

Originally Posted By: bigsplash

How is this for a case Hub Fail OUCH!


Seen the video the first time. It does not make a case either and just shows a failure. Even the comment posted with the video says " This could happen to any poorly maintained vehicle at any time". Says nothing about what bearings or country of origin or how many miles?

I am not defending the least bit that Chinese bearings "on average" will fail less, I am just saying that neither the article or that video makes any case about anything other than their admitted "poor maintained vehicle".

Just showing something broke and that is all the evidence given, does not tell anything other than "yup, it is broke".

As others have said, better to buy into a name than COO. While loose bearings made in the USA can still be had with a little effort, already made and pressed in bearing hub assemblies are getting harder and harder to find made here. Just about all the big names are either making or sourcing bearings from China and elsewhere.

 

[wapacz]

Not sure you guys have autozone up there but it is my understanding a lot of there house brand bearings are timiken.

 

[Trav]

That was not written by SKF. This is the testing SKF did.

SKF Test

 

[Hootbro]

Originally Posted By: Trav
That was not written by SKF. This is the testing SKF did.

SKF Test


http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes...akhija-bearings


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This is part of the group's strategy, which involves pruning its manufacturing activities in the US and Europe and setting up a stronger manufacturing base in low-cost countries.

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AB SKF closed two factories in the US and two in Europe in the last one year and also reduced its manufacturing activity in France. The company is in the process of setting up six factories in Asia.

 

[Trav]

Thats bad.

 

[vssjim]

I would try to buy a Timken online somewhere, that is the brand I buy when ever I have time to get them as the closet for me is a couple days away.

 

[L_Sludger]

I should also warn you guys about Deeza brand suspension parts. They are made of cheapest-quality potmetal in unsupervised sweatshops in the Middle East and there are horror stories all over the Internet about people getting into injury accidents and post-crash investigations finding the Deeza parts at fault. Worse still is the fact that some otherwise reputable places actually continue to sell these parts! They're even worse than Chinese white-box parts and should be absolutely avoided at all cost.

 

[Superbuick96]

Originally Posted By: vssjim
I would try to buy a Timken online somewhere, that is the brand I buy when ever I have time to get them as the closet for me is a couple days away.
X2

 

[Trav]

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should also warn you guys about Deeza brand suspension parts. They are made of cheapest-quality potmetal in unsupervised sweatshops in the Middle East and there are horror stories all over the Internet


This is totally false. Provide PROOF!
Deeza is sold all over Europe and has a stellar reputation, they are made at totally modern plants in Turkey.
With 38% of their production being sold in Germany i guarantee if there was even the slightest doubt on quality the TÜV would be all over it in a heartbeat.

I have used their parts and found them to be high quality and durable.

http://www.deezachassis.com/Deeza Chassis Parts 2008_2.pdf

Please read this thread..

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls400/49...e-in-korea.html

 

[L_Sludger]

Originally Posted By: Trav

Please read this thread..

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls400/49...e-in-korea.html

Reading that thread takes me back to 2003.

"Deeza parts do not fail!"

I'm similarly unimpressed with the German usage of those parts. Germany has a Turkish community in the multi-millions, so it's no surprise that they'd browbeat the TuV into accepting their production parts. Please - I didn't want this to go further than my original post warning people to stay safe and to stay away from the Deeza parts; I'm only trying to save lives here and if you are going to criticize me for it then I won't try and I'll stop mentioning it.

 

[Trav]

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I'm similarly unimpressed with the German usage of those parts. Germany has a Turkish community in the multi-millions, so it's no surprise that they'd browbeat the TuV into accepting their production parts. Please


I don't believe what i am reading here.
I asked you for proof and you provided nothing, not one accident report where Deeza parts were found to be the cause.
Instead you come up with the Turkish population browbeating the German system to accept questionable parts that could endanger thousands of motorist if the allegations were even remotely true.

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I'm only trying to save lives here and if you are going to criticize me for it

Darn straight! You sir are perpetuating complete and utter falsehoods about a companies reputation that is totally unwarranted and undeserved.

Unless you have proof IMO what you are doing just isn't wrong its criminal and you could be sued personally for defamation and slander.
Its not like you posted a link to an accident report citing bad parts made by them, that would be just passing on public information. You have made an all out personal attack.

I hope the mods will keep this thread open despite your attempts with that picture to get it locked and give Deeza enough time to respond.
I contacted them this AM.

This is my last post in this thread concerning this until or if Deeza responds.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: Spazdog
The spark plug in my generator was originally a Nanjing Huade.
(yes, I bought a Chinese generator, but it was quite literally 1/3rd the cost of the "American" generator that was littered with Chinese parts. It just ticked over it's 300th hour)

When I went to get a replacement for the plug, I could only find a cross reference in the Bosch catalog. Found out why...Nanjing Huade Spark Plug is Bosch in China.

Bosch Supers work great. I'll have to look closer to see where they are made. Probably Hungary or Brazil, but I may have been putting Nanjing Huade spark plugs in every 100 hours.

The Bosch plugs I put in my Jeep are from Germany.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: bigsplash
I am thinking about buying a couple of cheap Hub Wheel Bearings off Ebay, probably Chinese made. Right now I am very tight for money.

Am I making a mistake?

Considering that all automotive assembly plants in N.A. are getting lots of their parts from China now, and any parts store that I go to will most likely sell me parts from China anyhow, how bad can they be?


Could you get a whole ASSEMBLY from a salvage yard, maybe?

 

[zzyzzx]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Can wheels actually fall off? Honest question.


I know someone who had it happen.

 

[eljefino]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
The spark plug in my generator was originally a Nanjing Huade.
(yes, I bought a Chinese generator, but it was quite literally 1/3rd the cost of the "American" generator that was littered with Chinese parts. It just ticked over it's 300th hour)

When I went to get a replacement for the plug, I could only find a cross reference in the Bosch catalog. Found out why...Nanjing Huade Spark Plug is Bosch in China.

Bosch Supers work great. I'll have to look closer to see where they are made. Probably Hungary or Brazil, but I may have been putting Nanjing Huade spark plugs in every 100 hours.

The Bosch plugs I put in my Jeep are from Germany.


I've seen a shelf of tie rod ends, all same brand, made in USA, Hungary (?), and China depending on part number.

 

[zzyzzx]

I would not install Chinese wheel bearings in any of ma cars, especially no name brand off of eBay.