Chinese EV Thoughts? Curious on more technical info

[Torrid]

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I’ve said how much I hate the look of it, but my wife drove one two days ago and loves it. It’s growing on me. I still don’t care for the rear light bar. She wants hers in blue.

Should be here in 2-3 weeks. There’s just not enough space in the Model 3 for my wife’s animal rescue work. I think she outgrew it and I’m not looking to hand over my Y Performance.

 

[buster]

Ford CEO Jim Farley has issued a stark warning: China’s electric vehicles are pulling far ahead of the West. Speaking at the Aspen Ideas Festival, Farley said Chinese EVs are “far superior” in technology, cost, and build quality, calling it “the most humbling thing I’ve ever seen.”He pointed out that companies like Huawei and Xiaomi are now embedded in nearly every Chinese car, creating seamless digital experiences that Western automakers still struggle to match. “You don’t even need to pair your phone—your whole digital life just appears in the car,” he noted.

 

[4WD]

“You don’t even need to pair your phone—your whole digital life just appears in the car,” he noted.

Somehow I don’t doubt this part

 

[demarpaint]

Ford CEO Jim Farley has issued a stark warning: China’s electric vehicles are pulling far ahead of the West. Speaking at the Aspen Ideas Festival, Farley said Chinese EVs are “far superior” in technology, cost, and build quality, calling it “the most humbling thing I’ve ever seen.”He pointed out that companies like Huawei and Xiaomi are now embedded in nearly every Chinese car, creating seamless digital experiences that Western automakers still struggle to match. “You don’t even need to pair your phone—your whole digital life just appears in the car,” he noted.

Disappointing, but reality. IMO Tesla is losing ground fast and in a few years will no longer be the king of the EV hill.

 

[alarmguy]

Here is the story on Jim Farley visit to China. He was very impressed to say the least. The rest of the world has been asleep going after profits instead of a sustainable future ... (lack of better words as far as I am concerned)

“And even beyond that, their cost, their quality of their vehicles is far superior to what I see in the West,” Farley continued. “We are in a global competition with China, and it’s not just EVs. And if we lose this we do not have a future at Ford.”
https://insideevs.com/news/764318/ford-ceo-china-evs-humbled/

 

[Snagglefoot]

In 2010 China caught up to the USA in the number of vehicles manufactured. In 2024, China manufactured 3 times the number of vehicles that the USA did. They’re probably learning a thing or two on auto manufacturing.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Ford CEO Jim Farley has issued a stark warning: China’s electric vehicles are pulling far ahead of the West. Speaking at the Aspen Ideas Festival, Farley said Chinese EVs are “far superior” in technology, cost, and build quality, calling it “the most humbling thing I’ve ever seen.”He pointed out that companies like Huawei and Xiaomi are now embedded in nearly every Chinese car, creating seamless digital experiences that Western automakers still struggle to match. “You don’t even need to pair your phone—your whole digital life just appears in the car,” he noted.

This is the same guy that spent $30B of investors money on the Mach e without actually driving a EV first right?

He might be right on China, but he is the last guys opinion I would trust. The Chinese car market is huge, the government has decided to own that market, hence profits don't matter - they can just print more money. Farley likely looking for government hand outs.

 

[Rmay635703]

In 2010 China caught up to the USA in the number of vehicles manufactured. In 2024, China manufactured 3 times the number of vehicles that the USA did. They’re probably learning a thing or two on auto manufacturing.

China is sort of like Nissan used to be long ago where they could build a car to any price no matter what the consequences are.

Rust, broken handles, electrical gremlins from poor water seals, rapid sun aging are all part of for the coarse.

They are better than they were but a lot of people would spend a little more to avoid issues down the road.

 

[Vil_Riker]

I was recently in a country that encourages EV ownership. A few years back you would see Teslas and Chevy Volts. Now the main brands are BYD, ZEEKR, LI and other Chinese brands. They look much better than what Tesla offers. I spoke to a BYD owner at a charging station and he had had his 7 seater SUV for a year and was quite happy. No maintenance issues, no odd sounds and he liked the sports car type performance. His other car is a Toyota SUV but he preferred the BYD.

The Chinese brands are definitely the future in the world, and would be quite successful here as well if they were not banned.