Child Infected after Swallowing Magnets

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JHZR2,

I think you're letting the manufacture off the hook way too easy. These manufactures need to share a certain amount of responsibility for product safety. Sadly, product safety is usually fuelled by the fear of lawsuits. It would be nice if companies would engineer their products with built in safety features because they actually care about the safety and well being of the end user, but so often that's not the case; they rather make their products safe for fear of getting sued and losing their bottom line profits.





I on't really care to let the manufacturer off the hook. That is not my point. Per my first post:
"I really dont know what people expect, when they want the lowest possible price at wal-mart, a booming economy with plenty of jobs available, high levels of human rights in third world countries and absolute responsibility from everyone but themselves to ensure all of this and more. "

That is my point. Something has to give. It is getting to the point where the only real chance for joe schmoe to move up and become really successful in this world is to screw up and win a lawsuit. Lawsuits are the redistribution of wealth, it seems in the 21st century.

Look at what people think of Marie Antoinette, when she stated that people should "eat cake". Its not that simple. We have a very jaded view of the world, which has only been facilitated by our self-interest and our relative isolation via industry that provides us what we want.

Now that there is a real divsion in wealth, and the forgotten folks of the third world come to be a viable population in the world economy, us relatively well to do "have nots" feel the pinch more and more.

So its not that the company shouldnt be to blame for making an inferior product, but that is merely engineering to a point that allows the dividend to be paid, the profit margin to be made, and us to have our wal-mart widgets at the same price or less, while the rest of the world moves up.

What gives?

All the while, mommy and daddy cant watch their kids, because theyre too woried about the bills and the taxes on their oversized mcmansion and SUV, which they bought to keep up with the joneses. They fall behind in watching and guiding their daughter, and what do you get once in a million, or once in a hundred thousand??? Something in the mouth of a seven year-old that does not belong, and the right allignment of the fates to let the magnet fail and be ingested to injure the child.

Why? Was it because the child was stupid? Likely not. Was it because the child was not trained and watched by the parents? possibly. Was the failure due to the fact that business will not operate at a loss indefinitely, and therefore inherently must maintain its profit level and sales for the world economy and status quo to reman the same? And, if that means reducing product quality so they can meet wal-mart's prce points, does that mean that they will consider the actuarial risk and allow the probability of major issues to come to fruition, while raking in the dough in the meanwhile??? I think that is the case.

And I do not think we can reasonably expect it to be any other way, considering the criteria that we require as a society in order to buy most goods. Mommy and daddy wouldnt be happy if their 401k didnt appreciate, and they wouldnt be happy if their daughter was unhappy because they didnt buy poly pocket, because it was $50 instead of $10. However, they also would be unhappy if they bought the $50 polly pocket and added onto their already huge credit card debt.

So what would you want to give??? Something has to... And, IMO, we bring it upon ourselves.

JMH
 
A lot of the financial problems in this country would go away if people would just ask for Made in USA when they walk into a store. Too many people in this country are more concerned about themselves by getting something cheap for their money rather than the welfare of the American factory worker. I'm seriously afraid that some day there won't be any factories in this country; where are people going to work? Will the Chinese let them go over to China and work in their factories?

That reminds me JHZR2, I never did get a reply to my PM recommending that you to buy a nice set of American made liquid filled A/C manifold gauges. Please tell me you didn't buy the Chinese counterfeit knock-offs.
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The problem with these magnets are they essentially too powerful in this odd ball case and they stick together tenaciously. There would not be a problem swallowing one although not favorable. Its when two get swallowed they stick together causing an obstruction.

Its not a child's fault as they are too young to know. Its just an accident.
 
Accident or not, with a fairly good chance of a little kid sucking on or swallowing a toy, using unsafe materials in or for kids' toys is obviously unacceptable. Someone show me one teething kid that can always be prevented from chewing on whatever he can get his hands on!

PS: I hope you guys know what's in cheap imported clothes. Pesticides and toxic dyes abound. Formaldehyde content is common. There were recalls of clothes contaminated with all sorts of nasty compounds, especially undergarments, in Europe already years ago.
 
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Someone show me one teething kid that can always be prevented from chewing on whatever he can get his hands on!





I certainly hope that a 7 year old is done teething!!!!

JMH
 
I was talking about toys in general, not toys for a seven year old. Do you think baby bottles, baby rattles, suckers and so on are necessarily safe?
 
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PS: I hope you guys know what's in cheap imported clothes. Pesticides and toxic dyes abound. Formaldehyde content is common. There were recalls of clothes contaminated with all sorts of nasty compounds, especially undergarments, in Europe already years ago




Yes! A recall of Chinese made clothes for toxic dyes would be the icing on the cake.
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The manufacturing cost of a "safe" toy and an "unsafe" toy is SFA...cept maybe when you have leaded or expensively pigmented paint. Design costs might be up, but they are a one off.

Mattel and Fisher Price toys have not become more "competitive" since moving to areas of lower production costs, while they have rested on their name as far as safety.

When they started moving to Chinese subcontractors (interesting that it's Not Mattell's fault, it's the fault of their contractors), did they drop the price and tell the public "well the price has come down, which is what you want. The price that you will pay for the price reductions is that every now and then an entirely forseeable failure will occur, and 1 in 10,000 of your kids will die".

If they did, then I think their competitors would be successfully charging $50 for a safe and well designed, long lasting doll.

I'd rather my kids had only a few, safe well designed, and educational toys, than a room full of short lived, dangerous junk.

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Mattel has taken care of their reputation for those that worry about such things. When the choice is safety or an extra buck we now know where Mattel stands on the subject. The may be a good lesson for those that think toys for children have to be something that directs the kid's behavior instead of having toys that stimulate their mind. My 2 year old granddaughter when give the choice of playing with her expensive Mattel toys or making a castle with cardboard boxes, sheets and whatever you can find dumps the Mattel toys every time. The castle is safe and contains no lead paint, requires no batteries and does not use magnets.
 
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Someone show me one teething kid that can always be prevented from chewing on whatever he can get his hands on!





I certainly hope that a 7 year old is done teething!!!!

JMH




I said it before and I'll say it again: kids cannot be counted on to think logically like adults! They do strange things that don't make sense sometimes. That's not because their parents did a bad job. It's NOT because the kids are stupid or "special". It's just the way it is. I can totally buy a 7 year old swallowing magnets just out of curiosity. That sort of thing is normal.
 
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You can tell that some people will probably never have kids, by the responses here. That is also Darwinism at work.




I won't deny that!
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By 7 years old I had access to everything in the house and garage, including the magnets all over the fridge. I don't remember being under much direct supervision by that time. There must have been some reason I didn't find rare earth metals to be appetizing.

Children under 5 are another story. I don't recall having much rational thought prior to kindergarten.
 
How did the magnets cause here to get an infection? Kids eat money all the time and do not get infections from it! Heck in two or three days the magnets should have passed unless they were large enough to obstruct her bowels.
 
JB,
one magnet is OK, as it will make its way through (farmers use them on their cows at times)

two can stick together on adjacent parts of the digestive tract (i.e. when two loops sit next to each other), and then get stuck.
 
I can't figure out why a toy would have a magnet on it in the first place; I guess I'd have to go to the toy store and look at the toy.
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Merkava_4, just about everything has magnets these days.

When I was a kid, the magnets WERE the toys (and expensive and rare)
 
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