Cerwin Vega speakers

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Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
What type of music do you listen to Overkill?


Mostly? I listen to Metallica, G&R, Rammstein, Lindsay Stirling, Five Finger Death Punch, The Offspring and Emigrate.

Less frequently I listen to U2, Tragically Hip, 3 Doors Down, Tracy Chapman, 10 thousand maniacs, Evanescence, Type O Negative, Ozzy, The Rolling Stones, NIN, Alice in Chains, Carrie Underwood, Garth Brooks, Brooks and Dunn, Crash Test Dummies, Journey, Beethoven, Mozart, Mumford & Sons, Nirvana, Andrew Lloyd Weber, Stan Rogers and some other stuff
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
What type of music do you listen to Overkill?


Mostly? I listen to Metallica, G&R, Rammstein, Lindsay Stirling, Five Finger Death Punch, The Offspring and Emigrate.

Less frequently I listen to U2, Tragically Hip, 3 Doors Down, Tracy Chapman, 10 thousand maniacs, Evanescence, Type O Negative, Ozzy, The Rolling Stones, NIN, Alice in Chains, Carrie Underwood, Garth Brooks, Brooks and Dunn, Crash Test Dummies, Journey, Beethoven, Mozart, Mumford & Sons, Nirvana, Andrew Lloyd Weber, Stan Rogers and some other stuff
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Thats quite a wide range of music! I'm a metal fan all the way.
 
I like a lot of different genres save rap. I mostly listen to hard stuff though, particularly while driving. I used to listen to Adios when I was racing the Mustang, as that's an absolutely awesome song to come off the limiter on with a clutch dump and row your heart out. When we are doing the cross-country drives, I tend to listen to more mellow stuff, as getting wound up isn't good for 18hr driving stamina, LOL!
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
I like a lot of different genres save rap. I mostly listen to hard stuff though, particularly while driving. I used to listen to Adios when I was racing the Mustang, as that's an absolutely awesome song to come off the limiter on with a clutch dump and row your heart out. When we are doing the cross-country drives, I tend to listen to more mellow stuff, as getting wound up isn't good for 18hr driving stamina, LOL!
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Cool! Nothing like the heavy tunes when hammering on it!
 
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Originally Posted By: spk2000
Still have a pair of RE-30's that are 12" 3 ways that are still hard to compare anything else. I have yet to hear anything at a consumer level that can beat them within reason. They need cabinets rebuilt but components are still good and also need a 4 ohm amp which are not that easy to find.
Most good solid state amps are good down to 2 ohms.

That depends...on a lot and what your definition of "most good" is. While it only seems like 2 Ohms, you just halved the impedance. 8 Ohms to 4 Ohms is one thing, going half again to 2, depending on inductive & capacitance reactances, will really heat the heat-sinks and may turn your amplifier into an oscillator!
An almost dead short, regardless of sub C or sub L is not likely to cause oscillation. In the good old days of bipolars, high current flow through a low impedance load might cause thermal runaway, which could be mistaken for it, but power FETs foldback when they heat. Those nice power lump LSIs have a bunch of protection built in as well. I've got, BTW, a 1000 watt RF power amp using FETs amp in my radio room, it has survived more than it's share of undeserved abuse.
 
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Me,I have to have horns and huge woofers. Imo,that's the only way to get the proper sound if you listen to rock music. My current setup is only two speakers (a left and right). Cabinets are almost 6 ft tall with an Electro Voice tweeter horn and midrange horn in each,with a 15 inch Frazier accordian surround woofer (I prefer those over foam surround). Subwoofer is a Cerwin Vega horn loaded cabinet with a 15 inch woofer.


Somewhat similar to mine, though my towers are smaller. I have some Bravox DVC woofers in my old Cerwin Vega D3 cabinets with McIntosh tweeters. My sub is an old McIntosh walnut cabinet with a Bravox 12" EDX competition sub (sealed) fed by a Yorkville 3000, which can feed it 1200W of power continuously if needed. The bass reproduction is incredible and the system plays my type of music very well, which is all I need it to do
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Sounds like you have an AWESOME system OVERKILL!!
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Originally Posted By: sleddriver
Originally Posted By: Cujet
Unless you are an audio engineer, it's difficult to get the "punch" of CV speakers from a sat/sub system.

The PUNCH you're referring to is dub'd the west-coast sound. CV's and JBL's as well as others of the time were known for it. Heavy woofers in a punchy vented alignment. A very fond rememberance of times gone by: Guys and their big stereos! In contrast, Advent's were east coast: moderate woofers in an acoustical (sealed) alignment.


I actually prefer the Advents in their sealed enclosure. Believe it or not, the larger Advents, with a healthy amp behind them had great "tight" bass. They would match well with my sub.

I feel part of the problem with the Polks is the Polypropylene cones coupled with a ported enclosure. They simply sound "dead" to me. I often tend to prefer paper speakers. With a few notable exceptions.

The CV's do embody that "West Coast" type of sound you describe, bright and lively.

I do have a lifetime of audio experimentation under my belt. I have built a number of successful home designed speakers and often they outperform even the best store bought stuff.

I'm simply at the point in my life where I'm not going to be chasing the exact sound I desire anymore. What I have will suffice for the time being...

Now that I think about it, I still want to build a set of sealed towers with dual 10 or 12 inch woofers.
 
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I never thought of Klipsch as high end speakers.

For some reason when I hear Klipsch mentioned i get the mental (or aural) image of very bright, busy sounding and smiley curve EQ sounding speakers that don't have much to do with neutrality.

(Perhaps they have evolved, who knows?)
 
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Klipsch are high sensitivity speakers and well suited to very low power amplifiers; I didn't pay much attention to them until I started building low power triode amplifiers.

While they're a bit of an acquired taste, I don't think I would ever go back to low sensitivity speakers.

They started as a local company, but i don't know if they still make anything in Hope, the big 'horns maybe.

I haven't heard any Cerwin Vega's in decades.
 
Originally Posted By: Cujet
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
Originally Posted By: Cujet
Unless you are an audio engineer, it's difficult to get the "punch" of CV speakers from a sat/sub system.

The PUNCH you're referring to is dub'd the west-coast sound. CV's and JBL's as well as others of the time were known for it. Heavy woofers in a punchy vented alignment. A very fond rememberance of times gone by: Guys and their big stereos! In contrast, Advent's were east coast: moderate woofers in an acoustical (sealed) alignment.


I actually prefer the Advents in their sealed enclosure. Believe it or not, the larger Advents, with a healthy amp behind them had great "tight" bass. They would match well with my sub.

I feel part of the problem with the Polks is the Polypropylene cones coupled with a ported enclosure. They simply sound "dead" to me. I often tend to prefer paper speakers. With a few notable exceptions.

The CV's do embody that "West Coast" type of sound you describe, bright and lively.

I do have a lifetime of audio experimentation under my belt. I have built a number of successful home designed speakers and often they outperform even the best store bought stuff.

I'm simply at the point in my life where I'm not going to be chasing the exact sound I desire anymore. What I have will suffice for the time being...

Now that I think about it, I still want to build a set of sealed towers with dual 10 or 12 inch woofers.

Large Advents were the first speakers I ever bought back in college. Very popular then. I kept them for decades, then re-surrounded them and gave them to an older couple as a gift.

Sealed subs have a more gradual LF roll-off and better transient behavior. Their LF response can be enhanced with active equalization. A pair of 10's or 12's in a proper alignment will be a large box..all depends upon Vas. It's always better to oversize any cabinet, then fill with blocks of wood to reduce volume than risk being too small. That'll get you a bumped-response at the knee which can sound "boomy". Bad juju.
 
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