Castrol Edge Hybrid 'Suitability'
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I'm sure it will be fine for Hybrids. Hybirds are getting more and more popular by the month. So the marketing people got to show they are doing something for their paying job. After they seen the Mobil 0w 20 Hybrid oil. 
. However I would not want to be a test dummy for 20K OCI.
. However I would not want to be a test dummy for 20K OCI.
Probably marketing but the Hybrid oils do contain a chemistry that helps with moisture emulsification. It is an actual problem due to engine never get warm enough. They could be saying that this chemistry is also in their regular Edge line.
Everyone wants to just say marketing for everything because it's an easy response....sometimes what they are claiming is actually true as we've now seen with VRP.
Valvoline was one of the first to adopt this chemistry. Went under the radar.
Everyone wants to just say marketing for everything because it's an easy response....sometimes what they are claiming is actually true as we've now seen with VRP.
Valvoline was one of the first to adopt this chemistry. Went under the radar.
I think it’s related to the new ASTM WK86363 testing. Afton has been touting this in their GF-7 additive solutions.
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What does the back label say?
Apparently Castrol launched an internal standard for hybrid oil performance and does have oil formations designed specifically for hybrids. If an oil is branded HYSPEC then it meets their internal benchmark and would be their said oil “outright designed for hybrids.” Suitable likely means it doesn’t meet that standard. I haven’t seen HYSPEC anything in the US.
But I wouldn’t stress about it. Always take internal only standards with some salt. I’ve used the “suitable” Edge before in our hybrids and it did well.
https://www.castrol.com/en/global/c...ting-our-standard-for-hybrid-engine-oils.html
https://www.castrol.com/en/global/c...engine-oil/choosing-the-right-hybrid-oil.html
But I wouldn’t stress about it. Always take internal only standards with some salt. I’ve used the “suitable” Edge before in our hybrids and it did well.
https://www.castrol.com/en/global/c...ting-our-standard-for-hybrid-engine-oils.html
https://www.castrol.com/en/global/c...engine-oil/choosing-the-right-hybrid-oil.html
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So it could also benefit short trip drivers.
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Why clog the shelves with another jug when you could just Change your label. Carbon neutral
I think Mobil1 tweaked its formulation to deal with the water and fuel contamination issue in the 0w-20 HYBRID formulation. The hybrid specific marketing describe dealing with water like Valvoline’s marketing “Engineered specifically for hybrid vehicles, Valvoline’s exclusive technology suspends water molecules in the oil to prevent damage from fuel and water, while ensuring proper lubrication of all metal surfaces”. Or Mobil1’s marketing” “Hybrid engines run differently than non-hybrid (internal combustion) engines - they generally run at lower operating temperatures as the power source rotates between the engine and battery. These lower operating temperatures can allow contaminants, like fuel and water, to accumulate in the engine oil. Mobil 1 Hybrid is formulated with extra additives to help fight damage from these harmful contaminants and to provide that extra protection your hybrid engine needs.”
My question is: HOW MUCH MORE WATER OR FUEL can these oils suspend compared to their non-hybrid formulations? If it’s only 25%, I’m not worried and I’ll use the standard stuff. Hybrids have been in existence for a long time and have been running on non-hybrid-specific oil for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Any oil that meets your hybrid car’s spec is fine with frequent enough oil changes. I’m skeptical of any additional claims. Start/stop wear? Once the car is warmed up, this should be a moot point, but I can see why thinner oil is better here. Other than recommending 0w and thinner oils, there is nothing magic about the oil formulation for frequent start-stop cycles.
The marketing literature doesn’t talk about why the water and fuel issues as well a potential for additional start/stop cycle wear are much worse in freezing weather.
I’m back to running 5w-30 (Castrol Edge Extended Performance) oil in my Toyota hybrid. If I were living in freezing temperatures, I might consider the Mobil1 hybrid specific 0w-20. In Southern California, I suspect my A25A-FXS engine is happier with the 5w-30 than the same engine running 0w-16 in a Chicago winter.
My question is: HOW MUCH MORE WATER OR FUEL can these oils suspend compared to their non-hybrid formulations? If it’s only 25%, I’m not worried and I’ll use the standard stuff. Hybrids have been in existence for a long time and have been running on non-hybrid-specific oil for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Any oil that meets your hybrid car’s spec is fine with frequent enough oil changes. I’m skeptical of any additional claims. Start/stop wear? Once the car is warmed up, this should be a moot point, but I can see why thinner oil is better here. Other than recommending 0w and thinner oils, there is nothing magic about the oil formulation for frequent start-stop cycles.
The marketing literature doesn’t talk about why the water and fuel issues as well a potential for additional start/stop cycle wear are much worse in freezing weather.
I’m back to running 5w-30 (Castrol Edge Extended Performance) oil in my Toyota hybrid. If I were living in freezing temperatures, I might consider the Mobil1 hybrid specific 0w-20. In Southern California, I suspect my A25A-FXS engine is happier with the 5w-30 than the same engine running 0w-16 in a Chicago winter.
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Yep, Castrol has a smaller and more refined line up. Why have many products when few do trickWhy clog the shelves with another jug when you could just Change your label. Carbon neutral
M1 has afe, regular, truck and suv, ep, hybrid etc lol
Don't know - the remainder of that 5-Gal jug has been moved to a storage unit (packing to move)..
you mean bucket?
Sorry just seeing this, had a knee replaced JAN 30. Do you mean "bucket" vs. "jug"?
I was wondering if it was indeed a 5gal jug/5 gallon bucket, or a 5qt jug and you said gallon by mistake.
(ouch knee replacement) Hope its going well.
Yikes - you caught a rather blatant error I made... yes, you are correct, it is indeed 5 QTS - Thx!