Castrol 0w-40 LL-01 ?

[BMWTurboDzl]

Did castrol change something? It says 0w-40 is ll-04 approved instead of ll-01. And With the removal of a40 where does it now stand compared to before. The pour point took a decent hit.

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Different oils.

One is the C3 and the other is the A3/B4 version.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

That’s odd. There were no BMW certs on the bottle I saw last night. 0w40

Old stock perhaps

 

[MK5Rabbit]

Old stock perhaps

Did older 0w40 not have bmw certs?

 

[kschachn]

Did older 0w40 not have bmw certs?

How old?

 

[kschachn]

Different oils.

One is the C3 and the other is the A3/B4 version.

Makes total sense given the approvals.

 

[Jimmy_Russells]

Did older 0w40 not have bmw certs?

Old old did. Old, did not.

Make sense?

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Did older 0w40 not have bmw certs?

It was dropped when BMW updated their certs in 2018.

 

[MK5Rabbit]

Old old did. Old, did not.

Make sense?

Then I doubt oil that old would be at an auto zone.

 

[MK5Rabbit]

It was dropped when BMW updated their certs in 2018.

Then there’s no way 2018 oil is sitting at an AutoZone.

 

[Jimmy_Russells]

Then there’s no way 2018 oil is sitting at an AutoZone.

If the oil you looked at was produced anything more than about nine months ago, to approximately 4.5 years ago, it would not have the BMW certs on the bottle.

 

[MK5Rabbit]

If the oil you looked at was produced anything more than about nine months ago, to approximately 4.5 years ago, it would not have the BMW certs on the bottle.

Interesting, now that is a possibility.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Then there’s no way 2018 oil is sitting at an AutoZone.

Let me frame it another way. It takes time for older product to flush out of the system.

 

[MK5Rabbit]

Let me frame it another way. Castrol within the last 2 months of so just updated their 0w40 to meet LL01. It takes time for older product to flush out of the system.

Perhaps that’s why it’s been hard to find lately.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Perhaps that’s why it’s been hard to find lately.

I misspoke..0w40 was updated 9 months ago it was 0w30 which was just recently updated. In any case it takes time for old stock to move. We just don't know how that part of the business operates.

 

[MK5Rabbit]

I misspoke..0w40 was updated 9 months ago it was 0w30 which was just recently updated. In any case it takes time for old stock to move. We just don't know how that part of the business operates.

Is there a consensus yet about which formula is better? Current vs older formula from 9 months ago?

 

[kschachn]

Is there a consensus yet about which formula is better? Current vs older formula from 9 months ago?

There is no way such a determination could be made. At least not one that is substantive.

 

[Jimmy_Russells]

Is there a consensus yet about which formula is better? Current vs older formula from 9 months ago?

Your username is a VW, why are you worried about BMW certs?

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Is there a consensus yet about which formula is better? Current vs older formula from 9 months ago?

Castrol added LL01 nine months ago after a 4 yr hiatus. Any oil with LL01 today is a better product than the same product which had LL01 prior to 2018.

Relative Performance Comparison Tool for Passenger Car Specifications - Engine Oil Additives - The Lubrizol Corporation

online.lubrizol.com

 

[edyvw]

Is there a consensus yet about which formula is better? Current vs older formula from 9 months ago?

New API SP is not on sale yet in the US.

 

[MK5Rabbit]

New API SP is not on sale yet in the US.

There’s no new formula in the US yet?