Case for bigger Gov.

[NJC]

Originally Posted By: Aldaris
Originally Posted By: scoobie
time is a right wing rag

Are all Canadians like you? I'm just curious.

If a statistical trend can be drawn from the fraction 1/33,000,000, then yes he is.

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: Pablo
You are mistaken. We don't have a tax problem we have a SPENDING problem. Wake up.


Yup. And apparently it's the "elephant" in your room. We had 6% GDP deficits in the early 80s; then "read my lips" fell on the deficit sword. We've had the most government spending over the last 8 years since WWII. Gary is not mistaken. Those are the FACTS. GOP = grand ol spenders.


Geeze - I wasn't blaming any one side...


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....but the problem really is both parties, all politicians spend our money and money that doesn't exist like, well like there really is no tomorrow.

 

[jsharp]

Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: Pablo
You are mistaken. We don't have a tax problem we have a SPENDING problem. Wake up.


Yup. And apparently it's the "elephant" in your room. We had 6% GDP deficits in the early 80s; then "read my lips" fell on the deficit sword. We've had the most government spending over the last 8 years since WWII. Gary is not mistaken. Those are the FACTS. GOP = grand ol spenders.


Geeze - I wasn't blaming any one side...


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....but the problem really is both parties, all politicians spend our money and money that doesn't exist like, well like there really is no tomorrow.


Last time I looked, budgets had to be approved by congress.

Pablo is correct. It's not possible to pin the problem on any one person or party...

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: jsharp
It's not possible to pin the problem on any one person or party...


Hogwash. Who controlled Congress during 3/4s of the last 8 years?

 

[Gary Allan]

True. It's the cheering squad that warrants most of the criticism. That is, public spending is evil. Public debt is a good thing if it advantages me.

One is evil since it's wealth redistribution
One is good since it's costs redistribution

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Isn't that essentially how the west was won ?

Say what?


referring to the concept of a corporation owning all property.

Weren't there a lot of "Company Towns" on the frontier ?

 

[Gary Allan]

Most of my recollection of that sorta thing ..which wasn't all that long ago, was in coal mining towns. I guess it could be any mining town. Sorta like signing on as a mate on a charter. Your consumption on the ship got charged against your share at the charter's completion.

You load 16 tons ..what do you get?

 

[jmac]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Isn't that essentially how the west was won ?

Say what?


referring to the concept of a corporation owning all property.

Weren't there a lot of "Company Towns" on the frontier ?


Not really. There may have been a few in Colorado and IDK about California, where mining towns might be considered company towns.
Most towns grew where forts where established, then new settlers 'backfilled' the land which a series of towns/forts provided protection for. Or, towns were established at railheads and some of those may have started as railroad company towns but quickly outgrew being just a railroad town.

 

[jsharp]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: jsharp
It's not possible to pin the problem on any one person or party...


Hogwash. Who controlled Congress during 3/4s of the last 8 years?


And who controlled it for 3/4 of the previous presidents terms or for the last 2 years? I'm sure you've forgotten already.

Again, 7th grade civics. Presidents propose budgets and congress approves them. Congress always has the option of NOT approving them. To say they have no responsibility in the matter disingenuous at best.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: jsharp


Presidents propose budgets and congress approves them.


And who put forth that balanced budget? You must have forgotten that!