Originally Posted By: 3800Series
Originally Posted By: lukejo
Originally Posted By: 3800Series
Honda and Toyota both make good cars but I feel their value is serouisly inflated. I can buy a GM car that's a '02 with less then 100k miles for less then a 95 Toyota ( or Honda) with 250k miles.
Ultimaly my money would go towards the GM.
Honda and Toyota are definitely more money, but surely it's for a reason. It's certainly not like they are considered sexy/sporty/trendy/status symbol like a BMW or Benz. I believe it is due to long-term reliability. I'm talking over 150k. It's good that GM cars are easy to work on, but if you don't want to work on cars, it might be best to stick with Toyota. I've owned several GM cars and after 100k, none came close to the reliability of the Toyota's. Of course if you don't put on many miles, it might not matter.
(by the way, I notice a lot of "RIP" next to your previous GM's)...just ribbing you a little, no offense
I understand where your coming from but I know many GM cars that can easily get 200k miles. one had an oil pump failure. The other had a rodent make it home.
Heck I have an old Chevy that just had it's original tranny replaced at 330k miles beyond the ocassion distributor and a a radiator iv had to replace virtually nothing. And that's generally my experience with most GM's. Nothing gets replaced unless its effecting how the car runs.
Now I'm not saying a Toyota or Honda can't do the same but when I see a GM with 100k miles for $2500 or a Toyota/Honda with 250k for $4500 I'm going to get the GM every time. That's generally how it is down here.
Not only that but I can't tell you how many people I see who are teenagers driving 95-04 Hondas/Toyota's. Teens generally don't take care of a car. And that car will have the same value if a teenager floored it everywhere he went for 5 years or if a 70 year old lady drove it once a week to church.
I generally consider more 95-04 Hondas/Toyotas as teen cars. Teens with drive a car to death then sell it once they actually have to spend money on it. Or repair it to the point where it starts and claim that the car is worth 3k above Nada/bluebook because they owned it.
A few things I avoid when buying a car.
#1 high mileage
#2 previous teen owners
I do like Hondas and Toyotas but for the price range he's looking at they will mostly be very high mileage and a passed down family car.
Kinda agree with this as well. Yodas and Hondas in that price range here tend to get quite beat up.
I had a neighbor choose a 05 Cavalier (2200, 99k) over a 02 Civic (5400, 165k) for that reason. They added about 800 bucks in updates/parts, it's nearly a new car for almost half the price.
All he has to do is wash it like crazy in the winter....