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Camaro Returns for MY2028?
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There are rumors it will be a four-door, which might add some additional sales.
I said exciting.
And again, it's not that there aren't **** fine looking vehicles out there... it's just generating that full package feeling top to bottom is exceedingly difficult just with regulations alone. I was kind of excited about an electric mustang as that would be the future... didn't realize ford was going to build a modern pinto and slap a mustang badge on it though.
I always though it should have been called an Escape.
If they are built with 80s GM quality control that would be very accurate
The 2.7 4cyl is/was offered in the Silverado but I don't think with a great take rate.
That 2.7 does not have shabby tow numbers as it stands.
I’m telling you, this is my 5th GM pickup (85, 04, 13, 22, 24 (current)) and the 2.7 is my favorite engine of them all. Torque for days and the lighter weight vs V8 makes for great riding pickup. The thing feels like your driving a car. I tow 6500 lbs trailer regularly. But I digress…
We did the math a while back... because GM says it's lighter but doesn't offer any numbers... we came to about 80lbs difference between the V8 and the 4 banger. It's fine but the perfect chassis for that engine is the colorado.
My only real complaint is how unrefined and noisey it is though... and the fuel economy is not really any better than what I get in the V8 trucks... I'd also prefer it mated to the ten speed... while it does have it's issues, that thing is butter smooth compared to the 8 speed.
I wouldn't go this far, but it is absolutely one of the best looking SUVs on the road right now. Every time I see one, I wonder to myself why Honda can't make their entire SUV lineup look that good.
It does have a noise level doesn't it!? I test drove a work truck a couple days ago with vinyl floor. I was amazed how much louder the truck was with no carpeting. Disabused me of the notion that I wanted a vinyl floor (which I’ve always liked in trucks). It definitely lacks in refinement. But it still is quieter than my 2013.
It's worse in the second row but yes, the engine makes noise. Can't get around that science lol. Every truck has been better than the last in some way for me. The only exception to that I think is GMT800 to GMT900... I felt that was a step backwards in quality while it was technically more refined.
I really like the engine. On the V8 GM spent a lot of time quitting down the harmonics when in AFM and it kind of just seems like they sent the 2.7 as is. A little more exhaust work would probably take care of most of it. I lived with an iron duke powering my boat my whole life so it really isn't a deal breaker, it's just I would have expected a little more effort in getting that under control but I guess that's what the higher trims are for.
Is this the LT or the 2FL trim just out of curiosity?
I experienced the same feeling with going from GMT-800 to the 900. I liked the coil over shocks in the front, and the continued availability of the manual transfer case. Also, because mine had the 4.8 I didn't have to deal with the AFM. However, every part of that truck felt cheaper than the 800. Current 2026 is a crew cab with the Custom trim package. I think I have been conditioned to the cheapness now in new vehicles. I don't like not having a dual range transfer case (even though I almost never, ever used low range). Now you have to get the Z71 to get a dual speed 4wd system. However, in mixed (primarily city) driving I get 20 MPG, which is way more than any other truck I've had. Here is an identical truck: https://www.chevrolet.com/shopping/...KBEK9TZ347907&yearlyMiles=10000&zipCode=22201
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edyvw
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80lbs difference in front of axle is big deal.
It is not weight per se as distribution of weight.
The problem as I see it is that GM needs to have a large enough customer base that wants to lay out the money to buy one of these. The over 50 dudes with a receding hairline and pot belly is not a large enough demographic to make it a viable commercial product.
In other words... nobody (or certainly not enough people) wants one.
In other words... nobody (or certainly not enough people) wants one.
The next pickup iteration (2027 model year launch) will be available with a hybrid I think (or sometime shortly thereafter on the same platform).
Yeah... but it's a truck. (Sarcasm)
The odd thing is once you add all the ancillary equipment associated with the turbos, the stuff GM doesn't account for in engine weight alone, same truck for same truck it's typically +/- 10 lbs both curb and payload rating. Again, an OHV engine is stupid light for it's size. On the flip side, it's rare to see a heavy 2.7 truck as they're typically low trim low option trucks where the V8 trucks typically curb more to begin with and have a more apparent weight penalty.That's pretty much what we see too. 19-21 all around. Nice truck!
I too have used 4 lo about 3 times... once to pull a f350 out of the ramp down on the beach in the outer banks, and the other two times just to check operation/play. That being said, I think I liked the torsion bar setup on the 800s vs the coil overs... but the vehicle I had to compare (SUV) both had mag ride so it wasn't fair. The torsion mag ride was the equivalent of sitting on my living room couch vs the coil over feeling more like an ox cart. The 6.0l to 6.2 on the 800-900 change was interesting too. The 6.2 was faster but the bottom end on the LQ4 and LQ9 felt better in day to day driving. We sold the 900 and still have the 800 suv for those reasons.
