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Although I rarely get involved with these political discussions and debates, something recently happened that ticked me off.

Bush's joke the other day (where they showed a picture of him looking under tables in the oval office) when he said he was trying to find the WMD was wrong. I'm not a Bush basher or supporter....but that was just plain wrong. He led the nation into believing WMD was a threat to America...now billions of dollars later and hundreds of lives later he is joking about it. I realize the world is a better place without Saddam, but the nation cannot go into every nation where there is a madman in charge. I have to seriously question a man's sanity and integrity when the president makes that type of comment. While I usually vote for the republican candidate, I just don't think I can vote for Bush.

I'm so tired of both parties (more like the two nominees for president) that for the first time in my life I believe not voting is voting in itself.
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[ March 29, 2004, 11:20 PM: Message edited by: ryansride2017 ]
 
I heard about this too. Sounds low class, but I didn't actually see it, did you?? Just curious, give me the straight scoop, not the hate scoop....was it a video, or just a picture?
 
It wasn't a video, just two still pictures. I believe he was looking under a table in one and looking under a dresser in another. While the pictures were displayed you could hear the president's voice say that "the WMD must be somewhere." I believe this all took place at a banquet he was speaking at.

Here's the straight poop if you think I sound a little biased.

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[ March 29, 2004, 11:50 PM: Message edited by: ryansride2017 ]
 
Bush's lack of compassion is well-documented, and goes back a long way. Frankly, I think he is close to being a sociopath. Here is an excerpt from a 1999 Houston Chronicle, regarding fun he made of a woman death row inmate whose execution order he signed:

Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer criticized Gov. George W. Bush Tuesday for making fun of an executed Texas woman in an interview Bush gave to Talk magazine.

"I think it is nothing short of unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death," Bauer said of Bush.

Bush is portrayed in Talk as ridiculing pickax killer Karla Faye Tucker of Houston for an interview she did with CNN broadcaster Larry King shortly before she was executed last year. Just before her execution date, Tucker appealed for clemency on the grounds that she had become a born-again Christian.

" `Please,' Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, `don't kill me,' "

- Excerpts from The Houston Chronicle August 10, 1999

I think it is obvious he is neither compassionate, nor Christian. He is a cynical manipulator who wraps himself in the principles that people hold dear (religion, patriotism), and then perverts them.

[ March 30, 2004, 02:08 AM: Message edited by: TooManyWheels ]
 
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Originally posted by sprintman:
It was on all the nightly TV news here. It wasn't funny.

It must have been bad if even John Howard didn't say that it was the greatest thing that he ever heard.
 
If you actually take the time to watch his entire skit, you will find he was poking "fun' at himself, not at the WMD's. Just another reason for the anti Bushies to get "enraged".
Get over it already. Most comedy has been poking fun at oneself, but in todays climate, it's all bad.
 
still in poor taste.

Look at all of the other things he could have poked fun at all in self deprecation.

The one that he chose included at least 10,000 innocent civilian deaths.

poor taste.
 
I thought is was an inapropriate joke. The nation is at war and he is making jokes about weapons of mass destruction. Not cool at all. There are a lot of things he could have said that would have been funny. I did not find the skit funny at all, I thought it was a pretty stupid situation that he put himself in.
 
That's amazing, he is being castigated for laughing at himself looking for WMD that according to his critics ,"do not exist". If 10,000 people died , his actions in Iraq, removing the "Bully" and his weapons, should get praised, yet he is castigated again.
 
Like I said, and of course you do not want to see it, he was making a joke of HIS constant search for WMD destruction, that were there before the war, can't be found now and he continues to search for. If there is anything YOU should be mad at, is our inability to find them, or what happened to them. After all the whole world knew they were there, long before Bush was elected. He has never made a Joke about the WMD.
 
If you didn't see it, you cannot comment. I saw a 5 second clip on the news, and I can say I did not find it offensive. He was more poking fun at himself then anything else. I heard afterwards he spoke of the troops and made it clear what he thought of them.

I suppose taken out of context and only hearing it second hand it could be taken that way, but why would you do that?

-T
 
It definately crossed the line of poor taste for this reason: It was not merely self-deprecating. It would be self-deprecating if he had been the SOLE target of the foible. But the fact is that thousands of people have died in this operation--which arguably would not have taken place if we had been given the correct information regarding WMD. So this is not an "oopsie." This is a situation. And when hundreds of Americans die, it is not an "oopsie" like he's playing it off to be, and he owes a lot more respect to the men and women who died on his crusade than to poke fun.
 
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Originally posted by TooManyWheels:


Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer criticized Gov. George W. Bush Tuesday for making fun of an executed Texas woman in an interview Bush gave to Talk magazine.

"I think it is nothing short of unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death," Bauer said of Bush.


Such a statement shows extreme political bias.......as the governor does not decide to execute someone, a court does. A governor should have an excellent reason for overturning a courts decision.

As far as the original topic, I did not see the footage or pictures, therefore I really can't give an opinion. If it did happen like that, and it wasn't taken out of context...........then the "joke" was in very, very poor taste.
 
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Originally posted by sbc350gearhead:


As far as the original topic, I did not see the footage or pictures, therefore I really can't give an opinion. If it did happen like that, and it wasn't taken out of context...........then the "joke" was in very, very poor taste.


It did happen, Bush was making fun of Karla Faye Tucker.

You could probably dredge up a video clip someplace if you wanted to see it.
 
Assinine,
I think that Bush has a lot more respect for our men and women than you do. I still have not seen where he went to war on HIS Intel. He went to war on the available intel from our Intelligence people, UN intel, former Presidents intel,and as far as we can tell the entire worlds intel.
Your use of words like "crusade" show your leaning. He is not anti-islamic, and in no way a "crusader". The UN gave the ultimatum, the entire congress gave the OK, and he went in. Now because we cannot find the WMD he was wrong. If he had waited as long as people like you wanted, and there was a catastrophe, he would have been "crucified". But then, that will not happen now.
 
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Originally posted by Asinine:
Again, I say: he is not the victim of either emotional or physical loss. He is not being self-deprecating. He is making light of others' losses.

This is your opinion. I did not see it that way.

-T
 
Asinine, we will never agree on anything. Lets agree to disagree. Good luck with your world. I will do everything in my power to help make sure it is still here for you. Good luck.
 
Ahhhh, from distraction and false implications to patronizing. Believe me, I don't need people like you to help ensure "my world" still exists. Don't flatter yourself.
 
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