Brine on roads to control ice

[Donald]

Many of us in the rust belt know all to well about the brine they use before a storm. And people have commented the brine is worse than road salt. I always wondered why.

I was watching a video from NH rust treatment products.

What he said was that along with the brine they add something to make the brine stick to the road.

But it can cause the brine to stick to your car also.

So that is why brine is worse or at least why one person thinks it is.

 

[JLTD]

"Let's just glue this corrosive salt to your undercarriage."

IMO they should let it snow, people should stay home a day or two, plow once when the storm is done, then carry on.

 

[Vern_in_IL]

We used to do it all the time in the Illinois Basin oil field. We would spray down lease roads with excess salt brine. Keeps the road from growing up and gets rid of that waste. Now everything is injected back into the 'pay' by water flooding.

 

[supton]

Originally Posted by JLTD
"Let's just glue this corrosive salt to your undercarriage."

IMO they should let it snow, people should stay home a day or two, plow once when the storm is done, then carry on.

Would be nice, wouldn't it! Well, kinda bad for "essential" employees (police fire EMS etc) but for many of us... I'd be ok with it!

Oh well. Might as well complain about the weather.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted by JLTD
"Let's just glue this corrosive salt to your undercarriage."

IMO they should let it snow, people should stay home a day or two, plow once when the storm is done, then carry on.

 

[totegoat]

All that time and money spent on ice and snow that would all be gone by the 4th of July if nothing was done.

 

[Skippy722]

Originally Posted by JLTD
"Let's just glue this corrosive salt to your undercarriage."

IMO they should let it snow, people should stay home a day or two, plow once when the storm is done, then carry on.


I agree. But people would just turn to Facebook/harassing their local/county/state highway departments and screaming their fool heads off since they can't drive 60mph to the store to buy all the milk, eggs, bread, and toilet paper every time it snows more than an inch.

 

[Traction]

With all of the salt needlessly applied to the roads, they manage to collectively do much more damage to all of the vehicles, infrastructure, and the environment than what they think, so people don't have to adapt to the conditions. I could prepare, and learn to drive on pure ice all winter long, and never crash I think. I've seen it too many times where the roads ice up from the salt from snow blowing across it, whereas without it the road would be clear.

 

[JLTD]

Originally Posted by Traction
With all of the salt needlessly applied to the roads, they manage to collectively do much more damage to all of the vehicles, infrastructure, and the environment than what they think, so people don't have to adapt to the conditions. I could prepare, and learn to drive on pure ice all winter long, and never crash I think. I've seen it too many times where the roads ice up from the salt from snow blowing across it, whereas without it the road would be clear.


Too true; I've got a buddy that works for the WV DOH. The damage done to vehicles and infrastructure is huge. There's an alternative to brine, but it costs 3x as much....but all the damage costs 5x as much, but gov't isn't shouldering the cost of the 5x....

 

[das_peikko]

I don't know how you people put up with salt; you should be marching in the streets flaming mad.

 

[maxdustington]

It's the litigous nature of society, no one wants to get sued when someone wipes out. The only people who win are the salt purveyors.

We get rusty cars, higher taxes and crumbling roads of which pieces fall on people or cars sometimes. Nice!

 

[slacktide_bitog]

They need to use Calcium Magnesium Acetate (CMA) or propylene glycol

Airports use urea. They could hire people to drink all day and pee on the runway

 

[oilpsi2high]

I emailed NYS DOT a few years back and they said they treated all of their salt with an anti-corrosive solution.

 

[spk2000]

PA used fly ash which is the leftover waste from coal powerplants. Talk about something messy. The stuff would embed into your paint and was very abrasive. Easy way to dispose of a waste and save/make money at same time.

I like visiting friends in Vermont that lived in an area where plowing was done but no salt and everyone got along fine. Never saw anyone stuck just driving more sensibly and using correct vehicles/tires. Corvette would absolutely be awful there.

 

[Railrust]

I've read the brime is worse than rock salt because the rock salt actually takes some time to activate and therefore isn't instantly damaging to the undercarriage of your vehicle...the brime however is instantly activated and can easily get into the smaller crevices and cracks in your undercoating.

I will say this...snow is one thing, you can drive through it, but ice?? Ice is impossible without studs, you can die. I mean. Alittle poece here or there is nothing but if you're stuck on a big sheet and you don't see it? You're in a lot of trouble.