before tax , total of $429.88 installed on the '11 FIT ( 175/65-15 ) . Have the 70s on the '08 YARIS sedan ( 185/60-15 ). All are set at about 36 and 1/2 p.s.i.. No snow yet . Possibly mid week and on . Anyone have the 60s and if so what's the scoop on them ? How do they compare to the 70s . Thanks .
Bridgestone Blizzak WS 60s for $85 each
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the 60's were a major dry/wet handling update of the 50's which were great in the snow but bad wearing and very soft handling.
The 70's are supposed to be better in every way than the 60's but how much better who really knows.
were those last year models? Can you read a tire date off of em?
The 70's are supposed to be better in every way than the 60's but how much better who really knows.
were those last year models? Can you read a tire date off of em?
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Yeah, WS60s are previous model. In addition to the above, I have also heard the 60s tend to wear fast in the center even at proper pressure which I have some experience with. I am actually running 3 psi under spec out back this year. See if I can get a little more wear out of them. I suspect this is why the 70s have the nearly solid center tread block as opposed to the big water channel in the 60s...
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I have a set (all 4) of the 60's on a second set of rims on our 1985 Olds Delta 88 2 door, and a set (all 4) of the 70's on a second set of rims for out 2001 Impala. Just put the 70's set on the Impala for the second winters use yesterday. The 70's are quiet compared to just about any snow tire I have ever used in the past. They track like you are on train tracks. They give you a very good feeling of being in complete control.
I heard that the 70's have small particles of carbon added to the rubber compound to act like microscopic ice cleats, to give an improved grip, compared to the 60's.
I like them, and would buy another set if ever required.
Blizzaks are great tires. They saved my brother and his wife from sliding into a cement barrier, the car behind them did not have Blizzaks and could not turn. It did slide into the cement barrier. And they keep my Olds moving under control at least twice when other vehicles were sliding off the road. They kept the Impala form sliding into a metal guard rail in the center of the road when other vehicles were sliding into it.
I heard that the 70's have small particles of carbon added to the rubber compound to act like microscopic ice cleats, to give an improved grip, compared to the 60's.
I like them, and would buy another set if ever required.
Blizzaks are great tires. They saved my brother and his wife from sliding into a cement barrier, the car behind them did not have Blizzaks and could not turn. It did slide into the cement barrier. And they keep my Olds moving under control at least twice when other vehicles were sliding off the road. They kept the Impala form sliding into a metal guard rail in the center of the road when other vehicles were sliding into it.
I have no experience with the WS-70s, but the WS-60s are excellent in snow and ice, equal or better to the WS-50s that I had previously. The 60s are significantly better in wet and dry than the 50s. The 70s are supposed to be even better.
The Blizzaks go on the '03 Pontiac Montana, they will be installed today (second season on them).
I have had experiences like those recounted by JimPghPA. There have been multiple instances when the only reason I knew that the road was icy was because other vehicles around me were sliding. The Blizzaks just stick to the ice, it's amazing how well they work.
The Blizzaks go on the '03 Pontiac Montana, they will be installed today (second season on them).
I have had experiences like those recounted by JimPghPA. There have been multiple instances when the only reason I knew that the road was icy was because other vehicles around me were sliding. The Blizzaks just stick to the ice, it's amazing how well they work.
Originally Posted By: Rand
the 60's were a major dry/wet handling update of the 50's which were great in the snow but bad wearing and very soft handling.
The 70's are supposed to be better in every way than the 60's but how much better who really knows.
were those last year models? Can you read a tire date off of em?
I'm glad someone else finally said this about the 50's. I have the 50's on my DD and they are absolutely terrifying on the highway - there's enough tread squirm I think I could lean over into the next lane by wiggling the steering wheel. Makes the car feel like it has no camber control, for lack of a better way of putting it. And every time in the past I've mentioned it, people look at me like I have two heads.
The 60's on the other hand are very tight feeling. I've used those the past 3 years in the winter on my sisters car and they've been fantastic. The difference between the 50's and 60's is night and day as far as road manners. I can't speak directly to traction since my experience with the 50's is on RWD and with the 60's is AWD.
the 60's were a major dry/wet handling update of the 50's which were great in the snow but bad wearing and very soft handling.
The 70's are supposed to be better in every way than the 60's but how much better who really knows.
were those last year models? Can you read a tire date off of em?
I'm glad someone else finally said this about the 50's. I have the 50's on my DD and they are absolutely terrifying on the highway - there's enough tread squirm I think I could lean over into the next lane by wiggling the steering wheel. Makes the car feel like it has no camber control, for lack of a better way of putting it. And every time in the past I've mentioned it, people look at me like I have two heads.
The 60's on the other hand are very tight feeling. I've used those the past 3 years in the winter on my sisters car and they've been fantastic. The difference between the 50's and 60's is night and day as far as road manners. I can't speak directly to traction since my experience with the 50's is on RWD and with the 60's is AWD.
I am working on my 5th winter on a set of WS60's on my Sienna van. This adds up to approximately 50,000km of cold weather usage (all km below 10C). The Sienna is hard on tires. All 4 tires are now down to the first set of wear bars and they still seem to work pretty good on snow and ice. I cross rotate the tires (per Toyota manual) each winter and the wear across the tread is even. I plan to run them out through this winter and into next summer until they are down to the second lower wear bars.
I just purchased a set of WS70's for my wife's Prius. They also work very well in snow and ice.
I think the key to getting good life from these tires is to avoid using them in warm weather.
My wife and I have been using the Blizzaks since 1995 including 2 sets of WS50, the current WS60 & WS70 and one set of MZ-02. Each generation has been as good or better than the previous in terms of performance and wear.
I just purchased a set of WS70's for my wife's Prius. They also work very well in snow and ice.
I think the key to getting good life from these tires is to avoid using them in warm weather.
My wife and I have been using the Blizzaks since 1995 including 2 sets of WS50, the current WS60 & WS70 and one set of MZ-02. Each generation has been as good or better than the previous in terms of performance and wear.
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I am working on my 5th winter on a set of WS60's on my Sienna van. This adds up to approximately 50,000km of cold weather usage (all km below 10C).
That's pretty good. On our Montana van, we got 3 seasons on each of 2 sets of WS-50s, about 14,000 miles / 22,500 km. With one season of 4,000 miles / 6,400 km on the WS-60s, it looks like they will have the same lifespan.
The Blizzaks end up being used more than I would like in warm, dry weather - North New Jersey winters normally don't stay very cold for long periods, and the roads are cleared of ice and snow quickly. My wife demands excellent ice and snow performance over tread life, so she gets Blizzaks on her van. Tires cost less than body work and hospital bills. And happy wives are priceless.
The Montana van is very heavy in front, so the WS-60s that were on the front last year are significantly more worn than those on the rears. The ones that were on the rear look almost new.
As someone else mentioned, the WS-60s have more wear in the center than on the edges. That is very strange, the edges of the front tires have always worn most on all of the other tires I've had on the Montana.
I am working on my 5th winter on a set of WS60's on my Sienna van. This adds up to approximately 50,000km of cold weather usage (all km below 10C).
That's pretty good. On our Montana van, we got 3 seasons on each of 2 sets of WS-50s, about 14,000 miles / 22,500 km. With one season of 4,000 miles / 6,400 km on the WS-60s, it looks like they will have the same lifespan.
The Blizzaks end up being used more than I would like in warm, dry weather - North New Jersey winters normally don't stay very cold for long periods, and the roads are cleared of ice and snow quickly. My wife demands excellent ice and snow performance over tread life, so she gets Blizzaks on her van. Tires cost less than body work and hospital bills. And happy wives are priceless.
The Montana van is very heavy in front, so the WS-60s that were on the front last year are significantly more worn than those on the rears. The ones that were on the rear look almost new.
As someone else mentioned, the WS-60s have more wear in the center than on the edges. That is very strange, the edges of the front tires have always worn most on all of the other tires I've had on the Montana.
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Had WS-50's on a G35 Sport Coupe (RWD) and it never skipped a beat on snow or ice. They were very squirmy on dry roads though. I had WS-60's on an Accord and they were definitely quieter with just a little loss in snow traction. Bought WS-70's about 2 months ago for my Avalon and haven't put them on yet due to our milder weather.
I agree with all the comments listed above regarding the performance of these great snow tires. Angst-free is the best way for me to describe the feeling I have while driving on snow/ice covered roads when others aren't too close. The worst thing about these tires is that I think they give other drivers more self confidence when they see my car moving or stopping without issue. Think about it. How many times have you stopped at a light without sliding and you see the car that's been following you trying to stop with the same efficiency? Always wind up schoochin' up a few feet so I don't get boned.
I agree with all the comments listed above regarding the performance of these great snow tires. Angst-free is the best way for me to describe the feeling I have while driving on snow/ice covered roads when others aren't too close. The worst thing about these tires is that I think they give other drivers more self confidence when they see my car moving or stopping without issue. Think about it. How many times have you stopped at a light without sliding and you see the car that's been following you trying to stop with the same efficiency? Always wind up schoochin' up a few feet so I don't get boned.
BTW, I reduce the pressure to about 5 PSI for storage. And I take the plain jane steel rims to a car wash to blast off any salt and then give them a day or more to dry. Then spray them with Rustoleum semi-gloss black spray can paint every time I take a set off of one of the cars, be it winter or summer set. I found that if you do not paint steel rims they rust big time.
So far YARIS ( automatic ) is getting 40.7 m.p.g. on the Eco-Meter with this tank of gas with the WS 70s . Most likely 40 calculated if filled at this point ( 305.4 mis with 3 bars left ) . All but 50 or so miles have been 2 people and some extra weight . Tires set at 36 , temp average of 36 , many hills , and windy . Not much less gas mileage than with the Continental Pro Contact w/ Eco Plus . They're quite quiet , corner well , and ride is good .
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