Brake pad recommendation // FL5 Civic Type R

[Samurai1225]

BITOG team,

It's almost time for me to replace my front brake pads on my 23 Civic Type R. I'm looking for recommendations for replacement pads for the front Brembo brakes. I use the car mostly on weekends and enjoy ripping up some twistys from time to time. I've done the AI thing to see what it would spit out and 1 option was mentioned on all three inquiries. Hawk Performance Ceramic Brake pads. Any and all informed recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

 

[rstsco]

I recently bought Brembo front and rear pads and rotors off Rock Auto for our daughter's 2009 CR-V, as our oldest granddaughter is getting her license in August and will be driving it. They are Brembo-branded, but made by Akebono and were just over $300 total shipped. Certainly could have gone less expensive, but it's our granddaughter. The brakes do an amazing job at stopping the CR-V.

 

[f355spider]

I have used several brands of ceramic pads, to include Akebono, ATE and Brembo. All perform okay, quiet, and with much less dust, but if you want performance, the factory pad is kind of a no brainier. Most higher performing pads (beyond stock) will dust a bit to a lot more...and potentially make some noise.

On the BMW forums I frequent, the Hawk ceramic seem to have the least compromise for a ceramic pads...but you pay for that.

 

[edyvw]

Type-R? OE (Honda packaging) or ATE, Pagid, Textar or Jurid (if they make it).
Other than that EBC red Stuff or Hawk HP.
Thinking you want brakes that go with spirit of the car.

 

[DCDG]

DFC has a low metallic which would most closely resemble the factory pads if you're doing spirited drives, the DFC or Powerstop z26 would be the best for that kind of performance. AKEBONO has ceramic pads which may get overworked during spirited runs.

 

[edyvw]

DFC has a low metallic which would most closely resemble the factory pads if you're doing spirited drives, the DFC or Powerstop z26 would be the best for that kind of performance. AKEBONO has ceramic pads which may get overworked during spirited runs.

I get that some people think DFC is good pad on street.
However, that pad shouldn’t be on any performance vehicle. Period!
I tried them and managed to set them on fire on track. And that was their track pad. I tracked vehicle with regular street pads and didn’t manage to accomplish that.

 

[DCDG]

I get that some people think DFC is good pad on street.
However, that pad shouldn’t be on any performance vehicle. Period!
I tried them and managed to set them on fire on track. And that was their track pad. I tracked vehicle with regular street pads and didn’t manage to accomplish that.

That’s serious, did you reach out to DFC and file a complaint with them?

 

[The Critic]

I get that some people think DFC is good pad on street.

They work fine for the folks looking for a $299.95 brake pad and rotor special at NTB or Midas.

 

[edyvw]

They work fine for the folks looking for a $299.95 brake pad and rotor special at NTB or Midas.

That I don't dispute. But I would never put that on Type-R, among other pads I would never put on a vehicle like that.

 

[edyvw]

That’s serious, did you reach out to DFC and file a complaint with them?

It was $50 set. I did not have big expectations from get go.
This is brand new rotor after that session:

 

[shortyb]

Do you like how the OEM pads perform? If they give you what you want and stop well without issue, why not another set?

Otherwise, I've heard some Type R fanatics like the Paragons. P2s are street pads, while the P3s are aggressive street pads/light track pads. Obviously the street pads will be adequate with low dust and noise levels, while the light track pads will have more of both, but may give better bite, modulation, and fade resistance in a more aggressive driving demand type application.

I think Car and Driver used a set of Carbotech 1521s (FMSI # CT1001) on their long term FL5 and really liked them. Carbotech makes very good brake pads for aggressive street driving and race applications.

 

[DCDG]

It was $50 set. I did not have big expectations from get go.
This is brand new rotor after that session:
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Most definitely best avoided all together.

 

[edyvw]

Most definitely best avoided all together.

That rotor lived next 30k, including track. It was Pagid rotor.

 

[edyvw]

Do you like how the OEM pads perform? If they give you what you want and stop well without issue, why not another set?

Otherwise, I've heard some Type R fanatics like the Paragons. P2s are street pads, while the P3s are aggressive street pads/light track pads. Obviously the street pads will be adequate with low dust and noise levels, while the light track pads will have more of both, but may give better bite, modulation, and fade resistance in a more aggressive driving demand type application.

I think Car and Driver used a set of Carbotech 1521s (FMSI # CT1001) on their long term FL5 and really liked them. Carbotech makes very good brake pads for aggressive street driving and race applications.

I would stick to OE if no track involved. I was checking a bit, and short of EBC or Hawk, not many desirable options.
Track on other hand, Carbotech etc. or Pagid (if they make it) would be good stuff. Expensive though.

 

[shortyb]

I would stick to OE if no track involved. I was checking a bit, and short of EBC or Hawk, not many desirable options.
Track on other hand, Carbotech etc. or Pagid (if they make it) would be good stuff. Expensive though.

According to Pagid's catalog, the only compound available in the FMSI 1610 (4-piston Brembo caliper for Type R and a few others) is RS-42, a track compound pad. Too bad, Pagid (TMD Friction Group) makes some awesome semi-metallics for a lot of Euro cars.

 

[mcm0455]

My old Air Force buddy says really good things about the Carbotech's. He use to track his old MR2 and said that they were really good at limiting brake fade.

 

[edyvw]

According to Pagid's catalog, the only compound available in the FMSI 1610 (4-piston Brembo caliper for Type R and a few others) is RS-42, a track compound pad. Too bad, Pagid (TMD Friction Group) makes some awesome semi-metallics for a lot of Euro cars.

Luckily they make pads for few Toyota models, including 2nd generation Sequoia:

They have been largest supplier of pads for Porcshe. TMD bought them from Hella few tears ago.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

EBC Blackstuff, Greenstuff, or Redstuff

 

[Samurai1225]

I like the OEM pads fine but they dust up pretty bad. I'm looking for a pad that won't dust quite as bad without sacrificing performance. I get it .. you're going to have to deal with brake dust on a performance brakes application. To this point the car has been driven rather tamely. I'm at 53,000 mile on the clock and still on the original pads. (rear pads have been replaced) My son drives a 24 GR86 ands we are embarking on a 4-day road trip in July of some of the best driving roads in the eastern US. Here are some of the roads we will be driving: VA-16 "The Back of The Dragon", NC-209 " The Rattler", GA-19 "Blood Mountain", GA-348 Richard B. Russell Scenic Highway, Cherohala Skyway and of course TN-129 "Tail of the Dragon". On the way back to Cincinnati we plan to stop at the Corvette museum in Bowling Green, KY.

 

[DCDG]

I like the OEM pads fine but they dust up pretty bad. I'm looking for a pad that won't dust quite as bad without sacrificing performance. I get it .. you're going to have to deal with brake dust on a performance brakes application. To this point the car has been driven rather tamely. I'm at 53,000 mile on the clock and still on the original pads. (rear pads have been replaced) My son drives a 24 GR86 ands we are embarking on a 4-day road trip in July of some of the best driving roads in the eastern US. Here are some of the roads we will be driving: VA-16 "The Back of The Dragon", NC-209 " The Rattler", GA-19 "Blood Mountain", GA-348 Richard B. Russell Scenic Highway, Cherohala Skyway and of course TN-129 "Tail of the Dragon". On the way back to Cincinnati we plan to stop at the Corvette museum in Bowling Green, KY.

what brakes are on your sons GR86 does he have the optional brembo brakes?