Brake Inspection 2020 Ford F-150

[MParr]

Today, I rotatated my tires and inspected the brakes. The truck has 48,500 miles on it. I found that the rear pads were nearly gone. The front pads have plenty left on them. My local Ford dealer didn't have any rear pads in stock. Rats! I need to get this done fairly soon. So, off to NAPA I go. I picked up a set of their premium Truck and SUV pads. I hope that they work out.
Here they are.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ADOAD9350

 

[CKN]

Today, I rotatated my tires and inspected the brakes. The truck has 48,500 miles on it. I found that the rear pads were nearly gone. The front pads have plenty left on them. My local Ford dealer didn't have any rear pads in stock. Rats! I need to get this done fairly soon. So, off to NAPA I go. I picked up a set of their premium Truck and SUV pads. I hope that they work out.
Here they are.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ADOAD9350

The brakes in the rear are used for anti sway when towing a trailer. If the vehicle has towing history-that would account for needing rear brakes.
Quote-Our '13 F150 electronic anti-sway caused our rear brakes to wear thin within 25k pulling our 5er and still didnt do much for sway in the rear. Placed an aftermarket Hellwig anti-sway bar on it and that truck pulled without sway on winding and windy highways very well.
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From personal experience this also affects gas mpg when towing (which isn't great anyway) because it creates drag.

 

[MParr]

The brakes in the rear are used for anti sway when towing a trailer. If the vehicle has towing history-that would account for needing rear brakes.
Quote-Our '13 F150 electronic anti-sway caused our rear brakes to wear thin within 25k pulling our 5er and still didnt do much for sway in the rear. Placed an aftermarket Hellwig anti-sway bar on it and that truck pulled without sway on winding and windy highways very well.
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I have done very little towing. I bought the truck new. I'm wondering if the factory got a bad batch of brakes.

 

[CKN]

I have done very little towing. I bought the truck new.

Then I have no explanation.

 

[bdcardinal]

It is common to have the rears wear out first. They apply first to keep the back end under control.

 

[MParr]

Then I have no explanation.

I was just reading through the F-150 Forums. There are a lot of owners having the same problem. Rear pads worn down and the front pads having a good bit of life left. I suppose that I'm lucky to have made it to 48,500 miles. This is the first time I have experienced rear pads wearing out before the front. The rotors are in great shape.

 

[MNgopher]

Recognize the rear pads are used in anti-sway duty when towing and are applied as part of the traction control system. Note also there is not a lot of pad on the rears - the set I took off my 2016 F150 and put back on only had thick pad for a small part of the overall pad size - and before anyone asks, that's what the factory ones were like and the replacements were the same level motorcraft/ford part.

That being said, I got 90+k miles out of the fronts and 100+k miles out of the rears...

 

[meep]

Interesting. My 18 is easy on brakes and I am not afraid to stop pretty hard. The rear dont get used much on mine, judging by rotor wear. I do have a hellwig anti-sway (love it!), and I do nail the gas pretty hard on one pullout made daily, but rarely ever trigger the flashing traction light.

The only time the computer kicked in the “hand of God” when towing, I knew it, there was no missing it. It was also superb. I think you have to get pretty wild with a trailer behind it before it intervenes. Mine was a surprise sandy dusting of a 45mph corner in rolling hills. I was over the sand, the rear came out, and went back in, before I could react. We had a 19’ 4k lb trailer hooked up - it could have jack-knifed. Superb. But not frequent enough on mine to knowingly eat the brakes.

Note, I’m running older element3 pads all around - which is a more aggressive pad and to my foot better stopping power and pedal feel - I swapped in around 20k because the oem pedal feel was the pits.

 

[MParr]

Recognize the rear pads are used in anti-sway duty when towing and are applied as part of the traction control system. Note also there is not a lot of pad on the rears - the set I took off my 2016 F150 and put back on only had thick pad for a small part of the overall pad size - and before anyone asks, that's what the factory ones were like and the replacements were the same level motorcraft/ford part.

That being said, I got 90+k miles out of the fronts and 100+k miles out of the rears...

I might get 90,000 miles out of the front pads. I'm not hard on brakes. I've never experienced this kind of wear in any of my past vehicles.

 

[MNgopher]

Like you've said - not uncommon on the F150 boards with this generation. I've been lucky enough not to experience it, despite using my truck for a wide variety of uses - family hauler, freeway cruiser, trailer towing (boats and snowmobile trailers), and mountain driving in Colorado/Wyoming/Montana... Getting similar wear to the last f150 I owned (2004), but I much prefer the electronic parking brake to the old drum parking brake in the hat setup on previous generations. The running gear in the parking brake cable system and the shoes themselves inevitably fell apart from corrosion after about 8-9 years...

 

[MNgopher]

Dumb question - adaptive cruise or standard cruise control?

 

[Greenbeforeblue]

I'd have a look at the brake proportioning valve.

 

[MParr]

Dumb question - adaptive cruise or standard cruise

I don't think it has adaptive speed control. I've never noticed any independent braking situations while in cruise control. It does have radar that sounds an alarm when you get too close to another vehicle, get caught in a deluge or blizzard.

 

[D60]

~49k's a little early but this is common on all vehicles today, esp trucks

I've seen considerably higher rear wear on a '12 Ram, '19 Colorado, '15 Tundra and several others I can't remember.

I just expect it anymore and know that usually if the fronts look marginal the rears are definitely under 3mm -- probably WELL under 3mm

 

[rijndael]

I just did brakes on a 2020 F150 that's used for daily commuting, it had around 60K miles. They were almost metal on metal. The fronts have plenty of life.

 

[CarbonToast]

Fronts and rear slide pins tend of seize up on these, especially in the rust belt. Could be a contributing factor.

They lasted 5 years and you got 48k out of them doesn't seem terrible.

 

[MParr]

Fronts and rear slide pins tend of seize up on these, especially in the rust belt. Could be a contributing factor.

They lasted 5 years and you got 48k out of them doesn't seem terrible.

The slide pins are fine. I don't live near the coast or where they salt the roads.

 

[2013ecof150]

Fronts and rear slide pins tend of seize up on these, especially in the rust belt. Could be a contributing factor.

They lasted 5 years and you got 48k out of them doesn't seem terrible.

I just had to replace both front caliper brackets, pads and rotors on my 2019 F150 because both lower caliper pins were frozen solid at 104k. The front pads were still at least 50% but the rotors were warped pretty bad.

I replaced the rear pads and rotors at 60k. I went ahead and pulled the rear pins to clean and grease them. They were already getting stiff.

 

[MParr]

I got the rear pads installed. I cleaned and lubed the pins, pad ears, and slide clips. The pads came with new hardware (slide clips and bolts).
My initial impression is that these new pads have better bite and performance than the original FoMoCo pads.

 

[ctechbob]

Don't feel alone. The rear brakes on the Rangers are hot garbage as well. We've got problems with really odd wear showing on the rotors, squealing, and crap performance. Everything cured when you deep six the Motorcraft pads and rotors.

Whoever is in the brake design division needs to go off to where they shipped their 'lifetime PTU fill' engineer. They both sucked.