BP gasoline with invigorate

I get TT gas in my area cheaper than non TT. But I don't depend on it to be a fix all and wouldn't pay extra for it... it just may be smoke and mirrors.... essentially a nothing burger 🍔
 
JohnnyG said:
So the answer is no. Not a standard amount of additive, but a performance standard.
And BTW, has anyone ever even heard of a stuck valve on cold start?
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Correct. If Company A used Additive Y at 7ppm, it may not be as good as Additive Z at 3ppm. So just saying "XX amount of additive" wouldn't really do a lot. Instead, use the performance standard so everyone is at a baseline level and then they devise how to meet those standards. Maybe its 200ppm of Additive Y and 20ppm of Additive U.
 
I use what ever gas is on sale. Period ( my cars only require 87 ). Once in a blue moon I'll throw in 93 if on sale. Noticed it burns much faster than 87. So, screw that . 87 is 87. They add the additives at the station or the depot. My bro-in-low trucks gas and that's how it works. I throw in a bottle of Chevron and dry gas every now and again to clean things up, and get moisture out. Only use the red bottle of HEET. That is the real isopropryl alcohol that removes moisture. The yellow bottle does squat. This ethanol fuel sux anyway. Now I heard they want to increase the percentage. GREAT :( More black tailpipes. Garbage corn liquor they're feeding us. LOL
 
BP is not claiming they exceed Top Tier performance standards. They are only claiming they exceed Top Tier minimum detergency levels. A marketing ploy play on words for sure, but I would trust it as quality gasoline.

"All grades of bp and Amoco gasolines with Invigorate® exceed TOP TIER™ minimum standards for detergency."
 
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Right now and for the last 4 months or so, we have a Phillips 66 station in a Gas War with Murphy's at Wal Mart and Sam's just down the road. 2 days ago I filled up at $2.61 for 87. Everyone else around is $2.89 or so. We need more Gas Wars IMO
 
If the brand is on the top tier list, does it mean that it's not if the pump at that brands station doesn't have the sticker on the pump? I'm surprised how many Shell, BP, Sunoco etc do not have the TT sticker on the pump.
 
By the way. 2024 silverado 2500 l8t. Regularly run 87.

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I also saw an independent study of detergency in premium fuels. BP and Shell were about double most name brand top tier fuels with a slight edge to Shell.

That was a while ago I will never find it on my phone but it’s out there.
 
dnewton3 said:
TT fuels aren't necessarily the "best". TT simply assures a good minimum standard is met. If a fuel is not TT certified, it could be because it's crap, or it could be because the company doesn't see the ROI in the license efforts and costs.

I see this no different than API licenses/certs; those assure a minimum which is "good enough" for most applications. There are companies which can easily surpass those standards, but for me to purchase their products, they have to PROVE it to me. When I use HPL, it's because I trust them to provide a product which exceeds the API standards because I've personally seen the testing/validation proof. I've spoken with them in their lab and seen their production facility. Though I've not had such an opportunity with Amsoil, I would also trust them fully.

Point being, don't "tell" me you're better ... prove to me you're better. Bring the receipts!

I've read the BP marketing info. I do believe BP (and subsidiaries) to be a decent product line and I don't think they're purposely lying. I just want to see the DATA (the tests run and subsequent results) which prove their claims. It's not that I doubt their claims; it's that I want to verify their claims. As of yet, I've not seen anything but marketing claims. Where's the PROOF? I that they reference ASTM D6201, but they don't tell us their results and how those compare/contrast to TT standards. I want to see what tests are run, so I can research the test and understand what it does and does not assure. Then show me the results of your tests relative to those standards.

Here is a quote from their FAQs ...
"... in engine test stands incorporating ASTM, industry standard and new, cutting-edge test procedures."
They only reference one ASTM standard, and say nothing as to what the "industry standard and new, cutting-edge procedures" actually are.


NOTE: ASTM D6201 concerns intake valve deposits.
https://store.astm.org/d6201-19a.html
That does not address fuel injector cleaning, and other things which fuel can do if properly formulated.
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TT does not publish test results either. They do publish a spec - but were left to faith they actually test and the stations passed. But its essentially the same things what your saying.

So in reality TT and BP are the same - so believe one, both or neither - its all seemingly blind faith?

I tend to lean towards TT or BP, but in reality the US refineries are so heavily regulated and fined for operators passing wind at the wrong time of day, I can't imagine any of them are not meeting the generally pretty strict EPA standards
 
doitmyself said:
BP is not claiming they exceed Top Tier performance standards. They are only claiming they exceed Top Tier minimum detergency levels. A marketing ploy play on words for sure, but I would trust it as quality gasoline.

"All grades of bp and Amoco gasolines with Invigorate® exceed TOP TIER™ minimum standards for detergency."
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You are on the wrong thread. The “approvals”versus “meets or exceeds” and “recommended for” debates are on the oil forum. 😛
 
KCJeep said:
I also saw an independent study of detergency in premium fuels. BP and Shell were about double most name brand top tier fuels with a slight edge to Shell.

That was a while ago I will never find it on my phone but it’s out there.
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I think Exxon (and probably it's corporate sibling Mobil) premium gasoline is right up there with those others. I know I saw an independent video a few years ago which showed Exxon regular grade to have the highest detergent level of those measured.
 
pbm said:
I think Exxon (and probably it's corporate sibling Mobil) premium gasoline is right up there with those others. I know I saw an independent video a few years ago which showed Exxon regular grade to have the highest detergent level of those measured.
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Exxon was half the other two in the study I saw. Regional differences? I dunno.
 
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