BITOG has a reputation for banning.

[Lurch]

Originally Posted By: BuickGN
Originally Posted By: 97tbird
It's real classy to backhand kids across the mouth.


I'm sure the guy who said that was exaggerating. Nothing wrong with a spanking for being out of line. Let's not get off topic by diverting attention away from the potty mouths.


YES, let's stay on topic.

This world would be a better place if more Dads backhanded their sons across the mouth. May not sound too classy but IMHO it's better than spoiling the child so he/she'll grow up to be an overgrown spoiled brat.

I was exaggerating. Dad didn't do that but he could be mean if he wanted to be. I got poor marks in school due to ADD, and Dad used to punish me harshly (mostly with a belt) when I took home bad report cards. I was afraid of him for the most part. I took plenty of physical abuse from Dad up until I was 21, when one day we got into a wrangle and I fought back, pushed him onto the floor, sat down on his chest, and told him I wasn't going to take any more from him. He never raised a hand to me again.

 

[chevrofreak]

Originally Posted By: Saturn_Fan
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The people getting banned probably deserve it. I'm a [censored], often times intentionally, and I have yet to be banned.


That is why you have been on my ignore list for quite some time now chevrofreak.


Congrats

 

[expat]

When you get banned, or Time out, Do you get a notice or explanation?
If Time out, are you automatically able to log on again after you do your time in the penalty box.
Or Do you have to apologize of re-enlist or something?

 

[mechtech2]

I have been banned. No warning and no good reason. It's purely subjective.
Even so, I like the tighter leash around here for poddy words and off limits subjects.

 

[Familyguy]

Originally Posted By: expat
When you get banned, or Time out, Do you get a notice or explanation?
If Time out, are you automatically able to log on again after you do your time in the penalty box.
Or Do you have to apologize of re-enlist or something?


I didn't get any warning or message other than some non-specific note when I tried to login a few days later saying I had been banned for trying to evade the censor or somesuch. I just chuckled and forgot about it. The next day when I checked in to see about emailing the admin about it, my login had been returned to normal. Go figure.

I agree that putting a leash on people who are overtly obnoxious is a good thing, but I thought my "indiscretion" was a bit innocuous and not aimed at a fellow BITOGer (it was aimed at GM, actually).

 

[greenaccord02]

Originally Posted By: Lurch


This world would be a better place if more Dads backhanded their sons across the mouth.

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I took plenty of physical abuse from Dad up until I was 21, when one day we got into a wrangle and I fought back, pushed him onto the floor, sat down on his chest, and told him I wasn't going to take any more from him. He never raised a hand to me again.


You probably should work through that before having kids, you know?

 

[chevrofreak]

Most kids need a good smacking when they do something wrong. I see way too many kids that don't get disciplined, and they're wild little creatures. They'll carry that into adulthood.

 

[wavinwayne]

My children, ages 3 & 8, seem somewhat immune to the effects of punishment. I can spank them, take privileges away, and perform any number of creative punishments, and they still do things I tell them not to. I don't give up though, and they don't stop testing me. Parenting is SOOOOOO much fun!!!

 

[Gary Allan]

The key, as you said, is not folding out of frustration. That is, just because you don't succeed the first time doesn't mean your process is a failure.

The child rearing process is the most challenging part of young adulthood. Unfortunately.. for many it plays second fiddle to chasing a buck.

It's very hard to "get into" the mind of a small child in sincerity. You can play with them ..entertain them..occupy them ..and never really know them. We often pretend to form sincere "peer like" relationships with them, but have a very hard time empathizing with their perspective on things and acting accordingly in making it appear important. We often treat it as something to be contained and/or coped with. It's a wondrous thing when you can really get in their zone and not be dragged out by the demands of your own wants/needs. You're under fire all the time ...so YMMV.

I have the luxury and curse of viewing grandchildren under the same process ..so it's an acquired view.

 

[mpvue]

BITOG can be an informative place, but of the numerous forums I participate in, this is the most heavy handed one I've seen. granted, I agree w/ the needs for standards, but, the censorship is out of hand (like someone said earlier w/ the name of a fish- c r a p p i e should NOT be censored).
also, in many years of forum participation, BITOG is the only one I've ever been banned from (so there goes the argument that anyone who gets banned would gest banned anywhere).
I do come back, though, because of how active the board is, and how many different topics there are. I just have to remember that a lot of people here don't have a sense of humor and would prefer to just report a post. (BTW, I never used profanity, it was a suggestion of a double entendre)

 

[smokey1]

anyone think there should be a class for teaching manners , respect ( for others , environment ) , etc.. ? Find it very rare with parenting today . See it in stores , restaurants , etc.. Makes us sick seeing the garbage along roads , parking lots , etc.

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[Bambam]

The responses of some here make me sick too!

 

[Lurch]

Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Originally Posted By: Lurch


This world would be a better place if more Dads backhanded their sons across the mouth.

...


You probably should work through that before having kids, you know?


I have a feeling you and I are from 2 different generations.

I think I'd make a very good parent. My kids would be well loved, well disciplined, and would most likely grow up to be good, unspoiled people that would get married and stay married and not run back to Mama or Papa every time they got into a disagreement with the spouse..

My sister spoils the ____ out of her son, and he's already been through one wife and can't get along with his second wife. When times are tough he runs back to Mama and Papa like a little baby. She didn't believe in spankings or anything like it, and now it shows.

 

[Lurch]

Originally Posted By: Bambam
The responses of some here make me sick too!


Which ones, and why?

 

[greenaccord02]

Originally Posted By: Lurch
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Originally Posted By: Lurch


This world would be a better place if more Dads backhanded their sons across the mouth.

...


You probably should work through that before having kids, you know?


I have a feeling you and I are from 2 different generations.

I think I'd make a very good parent. My kids would be well loved, well disciplined, and would most likely grow up to be good, unspoiled people that would get married and stay married and not run back to Mama or Papa every time they got into a disagreement with the spouse..

My sister spoils the ____ out of her son, and he's already been through one wife and can't get along with his second wife. When times are tough he runs back to Mama and Papa like a little baby. She didn't believe in spankings or anything like it, and now it shows.


I think you misunderstand my point. My dad beat me many times and we fought a couple of times. I'd rather not get into details. You grew up in an abusive household. I did the same thing. If you don't understand how to properly handle some parenting situations (and without proper modeling, you might not) then it would be wise to work out just what a proper home life is before having children. I agree wholeheartedly on spankings and all of that, but there is a point when it goes from disciplining a child to taking out frustrations and anger on a child. For some people that line is blurred. I can tell you think I'm one of these 'time-out' hippies and that is NOT the case. This doesn't have anything to do with the year of my birth, it's a question of decency.

For the record, it took seeing my wife's family interact before I was able to fully realize just how screwed up my family life was as a boy. There is a way to raise children successfully without anything more than a few spankings.

 

[smokey1]

came from a very violent past . Don't want to get into details , but it does stick with you . Still , there's a difference between right and wrong . Much of the abuse ( verbal and physical ) was thanks to alcohol .

 

[Lurch]

Greenaccord,

My Dad used to think the cure for ADD (which was unknown in those days) was more punishment. I couldn't get decent grades in school because I couldn't focus. My mind wandered.

I'll put it this way, I think I'd be a better type of Dad to my kids than my Dad was to me. My Dad was a good provider, etc., but went overboard with punishing me. He didn't understand why I got poor grades. My kids wouldn't be afraid of me like I was to my Dad. I used to worry about him so much that I'd lose my appetite. I had a rough time in school and it wasn't even my fault but I paid for it like it was. You don't feel like studying when your mind wants to wander, so often times I didn't.

Maybe that's why my sister spoils her son so much, because of the way our Dad was.

 

[Gary Allan]

I think much of it comes down to having children for no other reason than you think you are supposed to. Most of us are still kids when we have them ..and are still kids until their real formative years are over. Under 30 adults are still more "youth" than adult. Still exploring their life in a somewhat adapted solitary manner. There's nothing wrong with remaining youthful, but at some point you will need to resign your needs and accept the responsibility for needs of others. Some can't ..and some don't know how. No one is truly prepared for the task. Some do better than others.

Now we really don't want "parenting 101" in the classroom ..with all the unintended influences and side effects (the "other shoe") ..so the only classroom we have is the one we were raised in.

YMMV

 

[wander2039]

Don't know about the banning but one mod sure likes to delete threads.. not move like what should of happened. Can't say I'd ever had a thread deleted before..

 

[Gary Allan]

Being a mod is tough here. It's like herding cats.