Bipolar disorder anyone?
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Originally Posted By: Eric Smith
You compared me to Carnoobie
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No, nobody compares to Carnoobie.
Any thread now that addresses mental health reminds me of his first post where he sucked a bunch of us in with his fake sob story that he didn't want to go on with his life anymore. The great bunch of people here came out with their stories to try to help him, including me, and then I realized that it was a huge troll and had a mod delete my posts.
I even got a warning from Helen for some of the things I said to Carnoobie once we realized it was a troll post.
You compared me to Carnoobie
No, nobody compares to Carnoobie.
I even got a warning from Helen for some of the things I said to Carnoobie once we realized it was a troll post.
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Diet, regular sleep, exercise and less stress help folks with bipolar cope. Medication does too.
The idea that diet is going to answer the problems of mentally ill is oversimplification of a very complex issue.
Diet changes alone will not completely cure the problem, but in the last 30-40 years the stuff in the grocery stores (I purposely didn't call it food) has certainly increased the spread of the problems.
It's the better place to start as opposed to just drugging a person. If changes in diet don't significantly help the issues, then medication can be implemented along with the dietary changes.
Doctors these days have really gotton away from the tried and true approaches to curing health issues and have instead become pill pushers for the phama companies. That may change some now that drug reps are not given full access to doctors to push their products, but they still have influence over them.
Diet, regular sleep, exercise and less stress help folks with bipolar cope. Medication does too.
The idea that diet is going to answer the problems of mentally ill is oversimplification of a very complex issue.
Diet changes alone will not completely cure the problem, but in the last 30-40 years the stuff in the grocery stores (I purposely didn't call it food) has certainly increased the spread of the problems.
It's the better place to start as opposed to just drugging a person. If changes in diet don't significantly help the issues, then medication can be implemented along with the dietary changes.
Doctors these days have really gotton away from the tried and true approaches to curing health issues and have instead become pill pushers for the phama companies. That may change some now that drug reps are not given full access to doctors to push their products, but they still have influence over them.
Originally Posted By: rjundi
The idea that diet is going to answer the problems of mentally ill is oversimplification of a very complex issue.
I had a similar remark a few years ago to my father, except I worded it something like psychiatrists and psychologists are in no way going into obsolescence thanks to chefs and dieticians.
The idea that diet is going to answer the problems of mentally ill is oversimplification of a very complex issue.
I had a similar remark a few years ago to my father, except I worded it something like psychiatrists and psychologists are in no way going into obsolescence thanks to chefs and dieticians.
For those that are interested, I just stumbled across this article:
http://www.hippocratesinst.org/wp-content/flash/33-1_screen/
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http://www.hippocratesinst.org/wp-content/flash/33-1_screen/
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Clevy:
Have you ever listened to the Evanescence song "Lithium"? If so, do you find you relate to it when thinking back to when you were medicated?
Never heard it before. Nothing is like lithium though. I'll check it out on YouTube and get back to ya.
Please do, I'm quite curious, as I have no experience with this myself but am admittedly a bit fascinated by it.
I didn't listen to the song but I did look up the lyrics.
I can see why some people might relate since the lyrics are a close description
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Clevy:
Have you ever listened to the Evanescence song "Lithium"? If so, do you find you relate to it when thinking back to when you were medicated?
Never heard it before. Nothing is like lithium though. I'll check it out on YouTube and get back to ya.
Please do, I'm quite curious, as I have no experience with this myself but am admittedly a bit fascinated by it.
I didn't listen to the song but I did look up the lyrics.
I can see why some people might relate since the lyrics are a close description
Mental disease more prevalent than one can imagine.
At my last place of work, half the patients in the BMC was our own staff.
The DANGEROUS aspect of being mentally ill is that that the one that is sick does not see it and most of the time denies it.
At my last place of work, half the patients in the BMC was our own staff.
The DANGEROUS aspect of being mentally ill is that that the one that is sick does not see it and most of the time denies it.
Originally Posted By: Eric Smith
Originally Posted By: Donald
My ex has borderline personality disorder. She either hates or loves you, no gray area. They are good at making you think you are the cause with all the problems.
Yeah that sounds familiar. No alcohol or drugs and eats a fairly good diet. She exercises and isn't bad shape.. it seems to occur regardless of health or anything going on. Thanks guys not sure what I'll do yet. If and when she gets to feeling better I'll talk her regarding a seeing a psychiatrist at least.
If she is a "Borderline", it is almost certain she will get highly aggressive and resistant to treatment, in addition to blaming it all on you as Donald says.
Borderlines are highly manipulative of those around them, they do this in order to mold their environment to themselves and their emotional needs. One of those needs is a need for constant reassurance, and when they don't get it, or think they are not (they often misread peoples expressions as being angry when they are not) they go "off". A common expression of this is the idea of "I hate you, don't leave me". They literally either love you or hate you, although they aren't aware enough to admit it to themselves. There is also a very observable tendency to black vs white thinking, there is no nuance, gray area, or moderation in their judgement positions.
Another name for Borderline P-D is Emotional Regulation Disorder. Read everything you can if you suspect this. This is largely a physiological disorder, the mechanisms which excite the brain are more active, and those which dampen the excitement are less active. There are some behavioral remedies which the person can use to do reality checks on themselves, assuming they ever come to believe the problem is within the themselves, not others. Google Marsha Linehan for more info on this.
Feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss...
Originally Posted By: Donald
My ex has borderline personality disorder. She either hates or loves you, no gray area. They are good at making you think you are the cause with all the problems.
Yeah that sounds familiar. No alcohol or drugs and eats a fairly good diet. She exercises and isn't bad shape.. it seems to occur regardless of health or anything going on. Thanks guys not sure what I'll do yet. If and when she gets to feeling better I'll talk her regarding a seeing a psychiatrist at least.
If she is a "Borderline", it is almost certain she will get highly aggressive and resistant to treatment, in addition to blaming it all on you as Donald says.
Borderlines are highly manipulative of those around them, they do this in order to mold their environment to themselves and their emotional needs. One of those needs is a need for constant reassurance, and when they don't get it, or think they are not (they often misread peoples expressions as being angry when they are not) they go "off". A common expression of this is the idea of "I hate you, don't leave me". They literally either love you or hate you, although they aren't aware enough to admit it to themselves. There is also a very observable tendency to black vs white thinking, there is no nuance, gray area, or moderation in their judgement positions.
Another name for Borderline P-D is Emotional Regulation Disorder. Read everything you can if you suspect this. This is largely a physiological disorder, the mechanisms which excite the brain are more active, and those which dampen the excitement are less active. There are some behavioral remedies which the person can use to do reality checks on themselves, assuming they ever come to believe the problem is within the themselves, not others. Google Marsha Linehan for more info on this.
Feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss...
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