Big Brother downunder - again

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Today is Australia Day.

People i know are mowing the vacant lot up the street to have a game of cricket, just like they've done (albeit illegally in the strictest sense) for 60 years. They'll consume heaps of beer, get sunburned, and retire to one or another's place of residence and cook meat and drink more beer.

Authorities have announced that this year there's to be an increased Police control of hooliganism, a word that's increasingly being used to justify any and all new measures for getting in people's faces, prevent groups of more than 5 people standing in the street etc.

2,500 Police rostered on for today as part of the fight against hooliganism.

Evening news has that Police have been patrolling the beaches today, in the search for illegal drinking (can't drink on beaches for the last few years).

Issuing on the spot fines of $110 PER alcoholic beverage found sounds a bit over the top.

But then they've (allegedly, but they've been exercising them) been given new search powers to search any and everyone's bags and drink coolers, regardless of whether the owner gives permission, or is even in attendance...duck into the water for a swim, and have Police rifling through your gear.
 
Well, I'd tell them to [blank] off ...but that would not be wise ..I suppose.

Would you expect them to just be "looking for trouble"? ...even where there's no apparent civil disturbance??
 
Seen notrhing but drunks, parties, music, and well you name it and not a single copper. I think they were rostered on for the big Australia Day concert last night (40,000) and are all off today. My 2c
 
my 2c.

I live on the main road in a small town. 3 nights a week we get wo9ken up for an hour or more by drunken louts teasing our dogs, shouting obscenities, doing burnouts.

I'm all for the cops taking them out.

If you confront these often 16 and 17 year olds you are a hair's width from being assaulted yourself.

surely this is not what australia is about.

i for one don't feel hard done by the police doing a better job to get these idiots off the street, because they end up being 50 years old and behaving the same...
 
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crinkles & sprintman - I totally agree with you

I live in a holiday Resort in a "Vacation" (Tourist) area. The problems we have in this area with drunken louts is truely unbelieveable! On Xmas day for example we had to confine three gropus to their Villas and the Police patrolled until they were sober - grog in OZ is a huge social problem - and getting worse!

Accommodation groups here have banned many people from ever returning due to the damage they have caused!

Drink driving is a real problem with many repaet offenders and they drive unlicensed! Our limit is.05 - some are apprehended with four and five times that level - and more!

My Son is a Doctor (specialises in Mental Health) in NZ (I was there last week) and he and his colleagues believe that many of the acute social and mental health problems are alcohol related

It has all gone too far....................... Many "offenders are very young - girls are the worst for bad behaviour

Shannow - come up and I'll show you!
 
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Doug, you don't have to show me.

I was "saved" from being put in hospital some years ago by wearing a particular T-Shirt, that the leader of the gang about to pulverise me found to his taste, called the boys off and wished me a good night.

These guys terrorise the place, have put our star league players in hospital due to their 6:1 tactics, and seem to be completely untouchable by the law...who seem to spend New Year's eve chatting up the underage drinkers.

Rounding up a bloke walking along a public road from the bottle shop to his house (unopened carton) isn't helping.

Emptying out peoples private bags on the beach without warrant or consent is unAustralian at the minimum.

Catch the people doing the wrong things.

Arrest the arseholes that were setting off fireworks from 10PM to 2AM last night (when nobody in this town can be more than 5km from the Police Station)

Don't treat every person as a criminal "to be seen to be doing something"
 
We often have the "appearance" of good law enforcement. What you can end up with is the coppers picking at the lower (and mostly harmless) hanging fruit for the ease of quantifiable results. No crime is truly stopped, you just make more law abiding people criminals. I don't necessarily blame the cops themselves. They're told to do what they do. Policy never really addresses the root of the problem.

We had a few teenage deaths behind the wheel just before my son got his license. He failed his behind the wheel test. We returned in the proper time frame and he passed.

We just had a few more deaths of teenage drivers and the same outrage of something to be done about it is being broadcast to the Commonwealth's DOT ..all the representatives ..and anyone else who will listen.

The problem isn't with driver training ..nor the testing process ..it's with the conscientiousness of the teen driver. That... no test or training will mend. Maybe some horror movies of mangled teens would help.
 
Originally Posted By: crinkles
my 2c.
If you confront these often 16 and 17 year olds you are a hair's width from being assaulted yourself.


Same thing here...the beer culture is not that different...although our beers are better of course.

A mate of mine lived at a surf beach,and on weekends hoons would come down and do burn outs and stuff.He kept a pile of rocks and a baseball bat outside,and would throw rocks at them,and sometimes smash their windscreens.I used to stay there sometimes and it was crazy to watch him deal to these young clowns.

A couple of years ago a group of boys from the most respected school in Auckland were rampaging down the street,and he had enough sense to stay inside...until a Cop turned up.So he went out to talk to the cop about what was happening.When the cop left they took to him,left him in a [censored] of a mess....but he had a broken baseball bat to prove he was doing all right for a while.

We've had liquor bans at beaches over summer for some time,but now are extending them and getting tougher.We have a liquor ban in town....but only on the main roads.Drunken hayhem doesn't happen on the main road around here,it's everywhere else!
 
we have an alleyway down the back, we're at the top of the street, as you pass our backyard towards the top of this alley/lane, you are entering the "centre". there is a great sign saying "no alcohol beyond this point Oct 2008 till Oct 2013".

of course no one pays attention to it and walk drunk down the alley way. few weeks ago louts kicked the pole over. been lying on its side for 3 weeks. thanks council.
 
yep, there's an issue, and I've seen it first hand, but do you all want your families belongings rummaged thought at the beach as an answer ?
 
If I was going to get ruffed up by a few people, i'd always carry a big stick. Your friend with the broken baseball bat was smart.

If it were me, I'd go out after recovering and make an example of one of them, a really good example, the scare crow method. But then again its the internet so that doesn't mean much, but I would :P

Maybe invest in a paintball sniper rifle and take care of em from afar.
 
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Maybe invest in a paintball sniper rifle and take care of em from afar.


Start with tomato cannons. Graduate to potato cannons.


Me? Oid hire a 'roo if I was ewes. One who knoz how tewe'andle himself with a brawling bunch'a drinkers.

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Originally Posted By: Shannow
yep, there's an issue, and I've seen it first hand, but do you all want your families belongings rummaged thought at the beach as an answer ?

I support this post.
 
If cops knew what was good for them politically they'd stay hassling only the youth... Gary's "low hanging fruit". Why the loud motorcycle pipe crowd gets away with it locally, they're 50 year old rich white male voters.

Beer on the beach? Sounds awesome! We've had that banned most places here since forever. Probably your recent bans have left the boozers
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for a new activity. Alcohol in a boat is pretty much legal here though, I imagine an inflatable kiddie raft a few feet offshore would make a great hangout.

Wondering if combination lock coolers are the next new thing.
 
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