"big block" GMC I6 engines

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Originally Posted By: ms21043
Here's the twin 6 in the Blastolene B702

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Just a vague hunch, but I'm thinking that this particular installation was not what GMC had in mind when it designed this engine...
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Originally Posted By: GMC Sales Literature
Cam lobes dip into a built-in reservoir
of oil as the camshaft rotates, preventing cam and valve scuffing -
a major reason why this engine gives long, dependable service.

I find this very interesting, and perhaps a small clue as to why these engines were so well respected. Perhaps today, with modern oils having better supplemental anti-wear additive packages, such a feature would be less critical, but having extreme wear points, such as cam lobes, oiled immediately upon start, must have been a big help back then.
 
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In hot rodding circles ,the blowers on those are known as 6-71's,they came off the six cyl.at 71 ci/per cylinder hence 6-71 it's the style of supercharger stickin' through the hood of EVERY 'cartoons' book.


Incorrect. The blowers came off two-stroke Detroit Diesel Series 71 engines, not the gasoline GMC V6.

You are right about the 71 cu. in. per cylinder. All of the Series 71 engines had 71 cu. in. per cylinder. The engine family name kind of tips you off to that though.
 
Are you thinking of the old 292 CID six?
This was the GM analog for the Ford 300 CID six.
It was not offered for nearly as many years as the Ford, but was by all accounts a good truck engine.
There is then the old GMC V-6.
I had the priviledge of putting some miles on a '65 GMC 4X4 with this engine.
Not really powerful, and very thirsty.
The four speed (first was a granny gear) shifted better than either of my current Hondas, the clutch was pleasant, and the thing was really easy to shift without touching the clutch pedal.
A really neat old truck!
 
The 292 I-6 wasn't an 'industrial' engine - it was put in regular 'passenger' pick-up trucks.

The engines HERE were very heavy duty - put in larger trucks.
 
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
440 - thanks for the frame of reference. Some odd thing brought those engines into my mind this morning, and it is neat to learn... But the aspects of design arent necessarily my forte. Your insight is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!


Look at where the spark plugs are located on the GMC v6 engines- I've always thought that was one of the neatest externally visible things about that engine family. Keeps the wires away from the exhaust heat and makes changing plugs in some applications really easy compared to other V-types (think boat or some industrial applications where the engine sits down in a pit).


I once had a 305 GMC V6 in a truck. Went to get it smog tested. Guy could not find the spark plugs on it and told me "it couldn't be smogged" because it didn't have spark plugs. He swore to me it was a diesel. I took it to the gas pumps and he freaked out on me. I was laughing all the way home.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
The 292 I-6 wasn't an 'industrial' engine - it was put in regular 'passenger' pick-up trucks.

The engines HERE were very heavy duty - put in larger trucks.


Actually, the 292 was available in some of GMC/Chevrolet's medium duty lines, but your right it wasn't as heavy duty as the GMC V6. It was essentially a larger 230/250 six from the passenger car line.

The GMC V6's were not limited to the medium duty/heavy duty applications, many 60's GMC pick-up trucks had these engines instead of the small block V8's that the Chev trucks used.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
The 292 I-6 wasn't an 'industrial' engine - it was put in regular 'passenger' pick-up trucks.



I'd say the 292 was somewhere between an ordinary pickup truck engine like a generic 350 and a true industrial engine. Comparing it to the Ford 300 is a pretty fair comparison- they're both a cut above just taking a car engine out of a 4-door sedan and putting it in a truck. They also compare more or less to the "-2" Chrysler industrial engines, whereas the big GM sixes were built more like the "-3" Chrysler industrial engines. Examples of Ford's true industrial engines similar to the GM 305 v6 family would be the 370 v8 and the industrial version of the 429. Chrysler had true industrial versions of their 50's Hemis (354 and 392), then later the slant-6, 318, and several versions of the 361 and 413 v8s, differentiated by "dash" numbers. The 361-2 and 413-2, for example, had a few industrial goodies like sodium-filled valves, full roller timing chain, etc. The -3 versions had all that plus completely different heads with lower compression, different coolant flow (a water manifold at the back of the head tapped hot water off both ends of the head), more coolant passages around the spark plugs, coolant-heated intake manifold, HUGE water pump that stuck up 4" above the intake, etc. Lots of people don't realize that even though the 413 and 361 were discontinued from cars in 1967, they were built as industrial engines all the way through 1975. The Ford 370 and 429 made it well into the 80s if not the early 90s.

Of course all that is pretty much gone by the way now since diesels have displaced gas engines from most industrial/heavy truck applications.
 
Originally Posted By: flacoman
The 292 was 3/4 of a Chebby 350 . Bore centers and head castings were all designed to be made on the same lines.


You're thinking the 4.3 (262) V6. The 292 was a big STRAIGHT six from the 60s and 70s.

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Many parts of the 292 will fit the smaller Chevy I-6; Mostly external parts though.
The 292 was used as a base for hop-up in the west for some time.
Speed parts are getting hard to find now.
 
Another one of the classic industrial/HD gasoline engines of the 60s-80s:

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The International Harvester 345- probably hauled more kids to school in Loadstar 1700 busses than anything except the T44E that followed it in the 90s. Note the solid closed cylinder deck, solid valley web, head gasket meat between bores, and the gear cam drive
 
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Another one of the classic industrial/HD gasoline engines of the 60s-80s:

http://www.remanufactured.com/International.jpg

The International Harvester 345- probably hauled more kids to school in Loadstar 1700 busses than anything except the T44E that followed it in the 90s. Note the solid closed cylinder deck, solid valley web, head gasket meat between bores, and the gear cam drive


I worked on one of those in a small dump truck (tandem drive axle) a few years back. Was an engine swap. Original engine had thrown a rod, we got a low-miler from the wreckers (from a different vehicle) and I was responsible for putting it in, component swap and setup and getting it running.
 
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