BFG AT KO2
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In the last 15 years including company trucks;
2016 GMC 2500 265/70/17 Toyo CT
2017 GMC 2500 275/70/18 Toyo CT
2011 GMC 2500 295/65/20 Toyo CT on 20x10" Black Fuel Cyclone neg 18mm offset
2018 Chev 3500 295/55 20 Nitto EXO on 20x10" DDT Fuel Cyclone (not on the truck yet, gotta get my angle grinder out)
2018 Chev 3500 275/65/20 Nitto EXO on stock 20x8.5" wheels from the 2011 GMC
2013 GMC1500 265/60/20 Good Year SRA take-offs from 2500s, (3 sets) on the stock 20x8.5" wheels.
2013 GMC 1500 265/70/18 SRA take offs from the 2018 3500 Chev on 18x9 Fuel Enduro wheels 0-offset.
2013 GMC 1500 275/60/20 Nitto EXO, studded on factory 20 x 8.5" wheels
2013 GMC 1500 275/70/18 Good Year Duratrac, studded on above Fuel 18x9" wheels.
2011 GMC 2500 275/65/20 Michelin LTX-AT on stock 20x8.5 wheels. (never again that tire)
2011 GMC 2500 275/65/20 Hankook RW-11 studded on Ion 20x9 +18mm, Great ice/winter tire, good tread life very tough 3 ply sidewall
2011 GMC 2500 285/75/18 Toyo ATIIs on the stock 18x8 wheels from the 2018 3500 Chev. Good highway tire, but not that great in snow & ice.
2014 Ford Escape 235/65/17 Toyo ATII on Niche 17x8" wheels. Zip tie & angle grinder day. Look great, but out-performs the car.
2008 Ram 3500 Cummmmins, SILs, 295/70/18 Cooper St-Maxx on some old 18x9 wheels he found cheap. Ugly black work truck with a standard.
2006 Chev 3500 cc/lb LBZ, he got the truck, she got the house. 265/70/17 Toyo M55 on 17x9 MT wheels 0-offset. after that Duratrac x 2 sets.
2006 chev 3500. I did a couple of sets of recaps, BDRWs on 285/75/16 BFG cases. 27/32" tread. The most awesome winter tire not on the market.
note; Caution with recaps, the cases age-out before the treads wear out. Speed rating, "N" at best.
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Pretty much decided on the Toyo Open Country AT3 whenever we upgrade wheels and tires.
I like that it has a new compound (just came out less than a year ago, I think), gets good reviews, looks good, has 3PMSF rating, and is only about a pound heavier than the Bridgestone Dueler HT OEM highway tire that came on the T4R.
I like that it has a new compound (just came out less than a year ago, I think), gets good reviews, looks good, has 3PMSF rating, and is only about a pound heavier than the Bridgestone Dueler HT OEM highway tire that came on the T4R.
I've deceided on those as well for a new Blazer that I have not bought yet. Either the 255/55/20 ATIII if the car comes with 20s or the
255/65/18 Toyo HT IIs in E rated if the car comes with 18s. The Acadia AT4 shows an agressive AT tire like a KO2 on GM's build and price site, but a trip to the dealership proved otherwise. El-cheapo Conti a/s that wouldn't get out of the showroom if rain was in the forecast.
New tires & wheels for that platform for snow & mild off-road;
17x8.5" Method +25mm offset with 265/65/17 Cooper ST Maxx
18 x 9.5" Black Rhino's (matter) +12mm with 265/60/18 ST Maxx
20 x 9.5" +12 with 265/50/20 Toyo AT IIIs
Stuck with the stock 17x8" factory wheels on an AT4 Acadia and want a long lasting snow & off road tire? 245/70/17 Toyo CTs.
Tires that weigh more are as a rule, tougher, last longer and cost more.
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I’ve got 2 years on a set of continentals new-ish AT. Mine are on a ‘18 F150, which sees both commute and tow duty. Hands down it’s a terrific blend of a tire. It’s probably the mildest AT I’ve owned but the cold/wet traction has been the best I’ve had, likely due to being perhaps a softer rubber. They are almost as quiet as a highway tire, balance smooth, and grip the road. Every AT I’ve had starts to lose rear traction in the rain and these have not, at least yet.
I do have to keep them aired a little higher to maintain my handling preferences, 37-38 psi.
they are not snowflake rated, however. If I’d wanted snowflake, the revo 3 might have gotten a nod. Having had two sets of the revo 2s, however, the continentals have remained better as they age than the bridge stones.
I'm getting a set of new duratrac 285/70R17 OWL load range c on my truck in the next couple weeks through warranty. The old ones made it 65,000kms (40k miles) still had 50% tread left, but started weather checking and had major cupping from lack of tire rotations and bad alignment (was aligned when the tires were installed by Canadian Tire but not a full alignment, original cams still in place) had a second half arse alignment when ball joints were replaced at like 180k miles (204k now).
I figure if I rotate every 5k miles (every oil change) and have a good alignment every year they should last 60k miles at least which will last me another 4-5 years.
I would have tried BFG ko2 or something else but the Goodyears were much more affordable considering the warranty.
I figure if I rotate every 5k miles (every oil change) and have a good alignment every year they should last 60k miles at least which will last me another 4-5 years.
I would have tried BFG ko2 or something else but the Goodyears were much more affordable considering the warranty.
I had the older version on my 2002 Silverado and got 70k miles out of them. When I need new tires on my new truck I'll go with the KO2's. Nitto Ridge Grapplers are very popular on the GM truck forum.
I've tried many over the years and actually sell tires so I get to hear a lot of feed back as well.
Goodyear Wrangler Adventure AT- (personal experience)surprisingly good traction, very quiet for an AT. Lasted me 40k before replacement.
BFG KO2- hear very few complaints most people really like this tire and would buy again. The only downsides are initial price and have seen lower than expected tread life on HD trucks. I had the original KO's and ran them for years always positive experiences.
Cooper Discoverer AT- (personal experience)the worst all terrain I've ever owned. Noise level of a mud tire traction of a highway tire.
Cooper at3- friends and customer feedback. These things last forever 60k is not unusual for tread life. Definitely the most common tire AT for noise complaints I see.
General AT2- (personal experience) I put 60k on these tires. Good traction in all conditions I experienced. Surprisingly quiet on road.
General ATX-(personal experience) This is the tire I run now and my favorite all time. Got 20k on a set now and they are still in great shape. A little softer ride than the AT2 and better snow traction. IMO this is the best AT currently on the market, that's why I own them and recommend them to friends and family.
Nitto terra grappler-last a long time. More of a highway tire than a true all terrain.
Falken AT3w- I would put this as a close number 2 to the General all around. This tire does everything well but I usually see a little more life out of the General. I also give the General bonus points as most of them I see are made in USA where most of the Falkens I see are made in Indonesia.
duratrack- great traction...LOUD
I have the Duratrac on my Jeep and the K02 on my truck. The Duratrac is my favorite snow and mud wise. Plus, like you said they’re cheaper. They also wear better.
The K02 has the cooler tread though.
happy with mine but i use as a three season tire, snow tires in winter. very durable, tough to puncture, and the tread resists chipping well.
With regular rotations and alignment these could have lasted 60-70k based on the remaining tread I had, you just have to put up with hard tread and bad rain performance after 3 years. The noise I couldn't stand anymore which they are known for uneven wear but mine had almost zero maintenance as far as rotations go.
i have duratracs on one truck and ko2’s on another and honestly i can’t tell the difference, lol. both are pretty aggressive and good offroad tires for someone that doesn’t want the compromises of a true mt.
Have LT265/70/R17C KO2's on my Alaskan 1/2-ton, 4-door, 4WD Silverado. They are 3-peak mountain snowflake-rated. These tires are good to excellent in snow of all depths, and average to good on ice. In all other conditions, both on and off-road, they are excellent. IMHO, the KO2's saving grace are their ability to dig-in and corner nicely on snowy or icy (slippery) roads and intersections. My KO2's are quiet and are wearing well (we don't drive wildly). Assuredly, I will buy KO2's again.
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I have BFG Advantage T/A® Sport LT tires on my AWD Equinox. Performance-wise, in all conditions, they are good to excellent as well. They are 3-peak mountain snowflake-rated. These tires are noisier than the OEM Michelins that came with the Nox, but I'm used to the noise now. These Advantage T/A® Sport LT's are an all-season tire that do really well in the winter, provide excellent dry performance, but are only average to good on wet roads (they slip when pushed on wet corners).
My Equinox's T/A® Sport LT tires supposedly "sport" a long-life compound and really are wearing excellently! Since it's winter 1/3 to 1/2 of the time where I live, I'd buy again.
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I have BFG Advantage T/A® Sport LT tires on my AWD Equinox. Performance-wise, in all conditions, they are good to excellent as well. They are 3-peak mountain snowflake-rated. These tires are noisier than the OEM Michelins that came with the Nox, but I'm used to the noise now. These Advantage T/A® Sport LT's are an all-season tire that do really well in the winter, provide excellent dry performance, but are only average to good on wet roads (they slip when pushed on wet corners).
My Equinox's T/A® Sport LT tires supposedly "sport" a long-life compound and really are wearing excellently! Since it's winter 1/3 to 1/2 of the time where I live, I'd buy again.
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Boy, I must be one of those rare breeds that don't care for the K02 one bit. I have driven many vehicles (compact suvs to 1 ton trucks) and K02's ranging from brand new to almost bald.
My experience on customer vehicles with K02's is that when brand new, they are all around pretty good. But after some wear (not much wear either) or age they degrade very quickly compared to other tires. My biggest gripes are wet weather, snow and extreme cold traction. I have noticed that in the wet they tend to loose traction very easily upon acceleration straight or in a corner, especially on lighter vehicles. In the snow I've noticed that besides excessive tire spin they tend to not be the best for turn in or braking either. With cold weather below 20F they seem very hard and loose traction (dry/wet/snow) much sooner than other tires in the same conditions, they also don't feel as stable at speed in those temperatures for some odd reason. In Iowa we frequently see temps in the negatives and often times our average low temps are below 10F, which is when most people are driving to work. Heck, my father in law has them on his 2018 F-250 work truck and has asked me about his wet weather traction and snow traction was not very good when he still 9/32" tread left.
There are far better tires in my opinion that cost far less and weigh less. It seems like BFG hasn't kept up with rubber compound technology like other manufactures have and have since fallen behind. I'm not alone on this either. Many Subaru and Tacoma (I follow them most since I own both) owners are starting to see that there are far better tires out there than the K02. Many have drank the kool-aid for years regarding the K02, but after getting other tires many owners are finding out that K02's aren't what they used to be.
Now I'm not trying to say they are complete garbage. But BFG hasn't innovated in years and they are no longer the standard in my eyes. From my personal experiences, I would no purchase the K02's. But thats why there are so many tire choices for people to choose from.
My experience on customer vehicles with K02's is that when brand new, they are all around pretty good. But after some wear (not much wear either) or age they degrade very quickly compared to other tires. My biggest gripes are wet weather, snow and extreme cold traction. I have noticed that in the wet they tend to loose traction very easily upon acceleration straight or in a corner, especially on lighter vehicles. In the snow I've noticed that besides excessive tire spin they tend to not be the best for turn in or braking either. With cold weather below 20F they seem very hard and loose traction (dry/wet/snow) much sooner than other tires in the same conditions, they also don't feel as stable at speed in those temperatures for some odd reason. In Iowa we frequently see temps in the negatives and often times our average low temps are below 10F, which is when most people are driving to work. Heck, my father in law has them on his 2018 F-250 work truck and has asked me about his wet weather traction and snow traction was not very good when he still 9/32" tread left.
There are far better tires in my opinion that cost far less and weigh less. It seems like BFG hasn't kept up with rubber compound technology like other manufactures have and have since fallen behind. I'm not alone on this either. Many Subaru and Tacoma (I follow them most since I own both) owners are starting to see that there are far better tires out there than the K02. Many have drank the kool-aid for years regarding the K02, but after getting other tires many owners are finding out that K02's aren't what they used to be.
Now I'm not trying to say they are complete garbage. But BFG hasn't innovated in years and they are no longer the standard in my eyes. From my personal experiences, I would no purchase the K02's. But thats why there are so many tire choices for people to choose from.
I've owned every version of the BFG A/T since the 80's. Including the KO2. For dry desert trails, they would be my choice.
But I agree with your assessment in cold, snow and wet conditions.
Yeah, they have the classic BFG A/T look. But just looks aren't enough.
But I agree with your assessment in cold, snow and wet conditions.
Yeah, they have the classic BFG A/T look. But just looks aren't enough.
My duratracs were the same, after 2-3 years they weren't as good in wet, snow and ice. Talking to my friend who has ko2 on his truck he said his did the same.
We just replaced tires on our companies 2017 f150. I can't remember the name but they seek to be the Falken equivalent of a duratrac or k02. It's a survey company so it makes sense of put aggressive tires on them.
Those BFG's have been a go to 4x4 tire for as long as I remember. I had a set way back in the 80's and they were popular then as they are today. Still an excellent tire as they have made improvements over the years and they still look great. I just finally found a better tire with the Cooper Discover AT3 4S and have them on 3 vehicles, 1 of which is on its 2nd set.
Ya, I'm on close to year 5 on my Duratracs. I have noticed they are loosing their "softness" in colder temps. But they are also about 75% worn, which is pretty close to bald for most AT tires in my eyes. So before winter I'll probably be getting a new set of tires. This time I'm looking at Kenda Klever RT 33x10.50. Reasonable price, good reviews in the winter, right size and not too heavy. I haven't had a set of Kenda's for a 4 wheel vehicle but they make some of the best woods tires for dirt bikes, so I have a good level of trust in the company.
I know I've bought Kenda's for dirt bikes and bicycles, didn't know they did truck tires.
Hopefully I'm getting my new 33" duratracs on next week. I had 50-60% tread wear after 4 years and 40k miles.
BFG ATs (especially the KO2) are like Glock for firearms. Yes at one point they were a superior product but in the last half decade or more so much of the competition has met or surpassed its performance for less money the name and nostalgia are carrying it as much as the product. And I'm sure these must have bandwagon movements like the current Nitto movement, the short lived Milestar Patagonia movement and whatever bandwagon brand is up next is even putting a dent in that name/nostalgia recognition.
