Best way to unload a motorhome that has issues.

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My family has found the motorhome we bought last year is too big. We have found a nice smaller model that is in really great shape. It’s a 27’ 2000 Gulfstream Conquest Sport with only 9700 miles on it.

The dealer will give me $17,000 on a trade for my 32’ 1997 Itasca Sunrise, which has 48000 miles. The Sunrise blue book value is $17,900 low retail and $21,500 avg retail. I really don’t want to sell the Itasca while also owning the Gulfstream. There are driveway space issues, costs (interest on loan and insurance total $175 per month), and problems with the Itasca.

The Itasca has the following to detract from the sale: Leaky radiator ($1000 fix) that I “fixed” with an additive and could start leaking, stripped transmission pan screw, generator is piece of #@$%!, door is jimmied and hard to close, leak over windshield may be fixed (had sealed, not tested), generator won’t start from inside the coach, LP level indicator stuck on full, steering stabilizer leaks. If the radiator starts leaking again, I’ll have to fix it. So I figure if these problems were not there, I might get the avg retail, but with these problems maybe my best bet is to unload it to the dealer for 17K and be free of the hassle. It also has an exhaust manifold leak that was repaired, but not exactly the best way (re-used warped manifold with gasket). On the positive side the Itasca has 6 new Michelins, new brakes, 2 new shocks, flushed transmission, new hot water tank, new generator starter, new fuel pump, fully tuned up with new plugs, wires, rotor and cap, new serpentine belts.

What should I do?

Take the trade in and run?

Put the Itasca up for sale and wait until it is sold to buy another motorhome?
(Keep in mind it took nearly 2 months for this Gulfstream to come in. We are looking for the smaller Class C (25-29 foot range) and they are scarce. Most Class C’s are running upwards of 30 feet these days and Class C’s are HOT. Also If I go this route, it will add 5000 miles to the Itasca.)
 
I'd take the trade and be done with it. Too many issues to try to sell privately in the hope of getting too few more $.
 
Make sure to write "trade in sold as-is" on your paperwork if you choose the trade in route.

There was a story of a BMW, a Lexus dealer, a check engine light, and a lawsuit floating around here some time ago.
 
You are getting only $900 less than low retail for a trade. Either take the money and or they are getting you in the price of the newer unit.

Don't forget, in many states, there is a sales tax advantage to trading. Here in IL, you only pay sales tax on the difference, so $17K at 6% sales tax is over a $1K more than if you bought the new unit and privately sold the one you want to unload.

Check your tax laws and the price of the "new" unit, it may be a heck of a deal.
 
An errant lightning strike may set it afire during the next thunderstorm.
Make sure the insurance is current and don't park too close to the house.......
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Their price for the Gulfstream is $24,900. NADA shows low retail of $16,900 and avg retail of $20,300. While the price seems high (not sure what high retail is), in shopping around, I just don't see anything to compare. Looked at a 2002 last month (different dealer). Really liked, but they wanted 33K and it had 50,000 miles! They would have given me 14K on trade.

I tried to get them to up the trade in, even talked to their sales manager and he said he just could not do it. He said wholesale is 15K. No matter I bought it from them last year for 25K.

One place I asked a trade value and got back 12K. That is laughable.
 
For a private seller to get anywhere near *Low* retail on any kind of vehicle is tough enough- with your camper's problems that may crop up any minute, probably impossible. IMO, you should take the trade, say thank you, & run like the dickens!
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I am and was totally of the mindset to unload this thing and run. I just wanted to see if I was being unreasonable, but you folks have confirmed it. My wife was not happy with the trade in value, but today said she'd go for it. I think what sold her was that the advertized price is nearly 5K higher that we will pay.

BTW, I have been a lifelong Ford guy. But I am old school too and that Chevy pushrod engine is familiar, not this fancy schmancy Ford OHC with the long snakey timing chaing.

Also, I like that the Chevy has a real oil pressure gauge.

Thanks all. Now if the dealer really will give me 17 after he looks it over. Will find out Thursday.
 
Yep, all the problems of a house; all the problems of a car. But the house problems are made much worse by the constant twisting and torquing of the walls and roof.
 
i have bought and sold alot of vehicles in my day and ive never seen a vehicle yet that is worth more at a dealer than at a private sale.
dealers will NEVER give you what the thing is worth. they cant because they need to make a profit on it. sence dealers are in the buisness of making profit it stands to reason that they will low ball ya every time. its just how things work.
you would be better off to sell it when rv season peaks and these things are in the most demand. then look around for whatever replacment rv you like, and if it takes you a while to find one dont sweat it. theres awalys next week, next month, or next year.
 
and get out of the mentality that this thing is a problem that you need to "unload". it still runs and you can jump in and drive it around right now. its just got a few things you need to fix.

if you think of it as just a broken vehicle you gotta unload or else then you will never get a good price for it.
 
You have a very good point MasterACid. But when I put other factors into the equation, it just wasn't worth it for me. Also, I looked at the angle of, would I buy the motorhome (the one I wanted to sell) for what I am offered on trade if my neighbor was trading it in just because I thought I could turn it around for more money? Even apart from the issue of sales tax, I would not. Why? Because I have no desire to be in the used car business, let alone the used motorhome business. Sure the dealer made some money, but also I got a better motorhome that was gone over, prepped, and had various items repaired per my inspection. Won't get that buying from a private party. I also do not have to worry about the new owner getting shafted if the radiator blows in 3000 miles or something. (Amazing, the K&W radiator stop leak worked.) Also I eliminated the hassle of advertizing, taking calls, showing the unit, ensuring payment is for real (not a bad check), title transfers, etc. etc.
 
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Did you specify a real oil pressure gauge on the new one??
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I've been a Ford guy all my life. Couple months ago I test drove a Chevy motorhome and really liked that there was a real oil pressure gauge with psi numbers in the dash. So I went for a Chevy. No tach, but hey, I have an ear.
 
Put the motor home on ebay, and be honest about describing it.

It will sell for more than a dealer trade.

A dealer will just go by auction value, then lowball you, so put the money in your pocket anyways.
 
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