Best 20K oil
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You mind as well go with Bypass filtering installation system if you want to push it that far and feel safe about it, not counting the amount of used oil analysis as additional spending to track the life of the oil and wear. It gets to the point of diminishing returns vs changing your oil/filter 4 times with less money at 5000 miles.
Anyways the only oil I've seen here that can push oil drain intervals to extreme milages without destroying while actually cleaning your engine is HPL oils, just expect to pay industrial grade pricing and have a batch of oil filters on standby as the oil filter replacement interval would be your point of concern with additional oil top off.
Laziness.
Busy Life.
Maximum penny pinching (borderline neglect).
Wants to destroy his engine before trading his vehicle in for another.
Anyways the only oil I've seen here that can push oil drain intervals to extreme milages without destroying while actually cleaning your engine is HPL oils, just expect to pay industrial grade pricing and have a batch of oil filters on standby as the oil filter replacement interval would be your point of concern with additional oil top off.
Laziness.
Busy Life.
Maximum penny pinching (borderline neglect).
Wants to destroy his engine before trading his vehicle in for another.
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Whatever looks good on paper done in a controlled study. No engine are alike no driving conditions, environment etc are the same. What manufacturers recommend 20k oil?
Say you change your oil and filter with M1 5W30 EP and a Fram 20K ultra oil filter before taking a cross country trip (all interstate) then doing some combo local and interstate coastal travel . I’d like to think before a UOA that M1 EP oil can go at least 10K miles with the majority bring interstate miles ?
Do even realize hot hot a turbo will cook oil temps? Do realize a turbo producing 1 bar of boost that turbo will be spoiling inside close to 20k rpm’s. Then most don’t warm up engine before mashing it or allow cool down time? I don’t know why mfg don’t have a turbo timer installed in the ECU software
Heck it’s cheaper to change your oil than even getting a UOA if you change your own oilYou're going well over 2x longer than most believe is even "possible" with your engine. If you believe everyone, your engine will only survive a few hundred miles longer than the automaker's warranty and explode.... There will be issues with cam phasers, timing chain guides, etc, etc yet the engine oil is still very much viable according to UOAs. These UOAs are a pesky thing ! Suggestions are always to have them done but don't believe or accept them when they go against conventional (here) wisdom !
Since you are taking a personal shot at me, I will respond.
The correct answer is
"Three out of four."
Also, it is all thoroughly documented, with qualifications, in posts and threads on this board.
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So now you are calling me soft ?
OK.
I would like to ask anyone who met me in person
at the first HPL Open House,
what is your opinion ?
Do you consider me to be "soft" ?
Back to oil discussion.
High Performance Lubricants recommended
that I use one Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil filter
for the full 30k mile OCI.
The data trending clearly shows acceptable wear rates,
as much as that can be claimed to be revealed.
That is without bypass filters.
YMMV.
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