Coming up on my 20K oil change. Out of the 3 oils pictured --- what do BITOGers recommend?
2023 Rav4 Hybrid 20K..
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Why discriminate? Put them all in one bucket, mix well, add what is needed. 
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There was some discussions on the possible additive pack differences for the Hybrid on dealing with FD, moisture possibly since motor does not always get hot enough to burn stuff off.
What are the OCI's? Have you done any tests on previous changes to determine fuel dilution or other concerns? That may lead you to doing earlier OCI's with a potentially less expensive version or better for ring cleaning etc. It will at least lead you toward if not down the rabbit hole of paralysis by analysis.
All are good IMO. Throw a dart and the one with leaking hole from dart, use that so it doesn't make a mess.
.There was some discussions on the possible additive pack differences for the Hybrid on dealing with FD, moisture possibly since motor does not always get hot enough to burn stuff off.
What are the OCI's? Have you done any tests on previous changes to determine fuel dilution or other concerns? That may lead you to doing earlier OCI's with a potentially less expensive version or better for ring cleaning etc. It will at least lead you toward if not down the rabbit hole of paralysis by analysis.
All are good IMO. Throw a dart and the one with leaking hole from dart, use that so it doesn't make a mess.
Toss up for 1st and 2nd on the M1 products. I’d save the VRP until you get some more mileage on it.
I’ll be using VRP on the Sienna Hyrbid at just under 40K. Planning on doing 3 or 4 runs with it.
I’ll be using VRP on the Sienna Hyrbid at just under 40K. Planning on doing 3 or 4 runs with it.
Hybrid if you do city driving where the oil is prone to fuel/moisture. They supposedly added a booster to better handle this exposure.
Otherwise, R&P.
Otherwise, R&P.
Whichever you got first. Use the oldest oil first.
Previous runs have been Mobil 1 Hybrid 0W20, PUP 0W20 and TGMO 0W16. OCIs average between 4 and 5K. Never have performed a UOA. If I would I would not go with Blackstone with the feedback I read on here. Actually the Valvoline Restore & Protect was purchased before the M1 offerings.Why discriminate? Put them all in one bucket, mix well, add what is needed.
There was some discussions on the possible additive pack differences for the Hybrid on dealing with FD, moisture possibly since motor does not always get hot enough to burn stuff off.
What are the OCI's? Have you done any tests on previous changes to determine fuel dilution or other concerns? That may lead you to doing earlier OCI's with a potentially less expensive version or better for ring cleaning etc. It will at least lead you toward if not down the rabbit hole of paralysis by analysis.
All are good IMO. Throw a dart and the one with leaking hole from dart, use that so it doesn't make a mess.
That does not surprise me you said that. Lol
In all seriousness I'd take the esp 0w-20 and Castrol edge euro 0w-20 and Castrol EP 0w-20 would be on my list as they carry great approvals. But these engines do allow up to 15w-40
But even I wouldn't run that in this engine, only for my old high mileage trucks. M1 esp 0w-30 or any other other euro 0/5w-30's is the thickest oil I realistically see myself using in something like this.
I would use them in that order. Whatever end you start from, it won't matter... 
1.) Hybrid
2.) ESP
3.) R&P
2.) ESP
3.) R&P
These are all 5k intervals oils. Your RAV4 Mileage is 20k. Got ya
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