Ah. I didn’t know that.
Belt In Oil (BIO) and Oil Spec
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Is there a specified replacement interval for this oil pump belt, or do you just run it until it kills your engine?
Can you replace it just by removing the oil pan or does it need a lot more effort?
Can you replace it just by removing the oil pan or does it need a lot more effort?
There’s no replacement interval, but other Fords with wet timing belts say to change everything at 10 years or 240,000km, so that’s when I’d change the oil pump belt at a maximum. The belt looks like it’s easy to change just by removing the sump, according to the workshop manual
This is the info I wanted! Thank you so much!
I’m 100% going to run a WSS-5W-30 M2C-961-A1 in the Fiesta ST then. I see zero downsides apart from a negligible increase in fuel use
Honda OPE small engines have had "wet" cam drive belts for decades ( with trouble free reputation) and I'm sure they get every oil brand on earth dumped in.
Both the 1.0L and 1.5L EcoBoost engines use a bathed in oil timing belt.
The 1.0L has a history of problems with little bits of rubber clogging the oil pump sump strainer eventually leading to oil starvation.
Not sure if the 1.5L suffers the same fate.
I to was curious what a high mileage oil that is designed to expand and soften seals do to the rubber of a timing belt.
For me, I'd go the other way. I'd be using a 0W-20 to maximize cold flow to engine parts, to the timing belt. Keep that oil as thin as possible at a cold start up to get through oil sump for longevity.
I have an Ecosport with 1.0L nearing 100kmi, 97,000+ now. So far, so good. No concerning problems I'm aware of.
The 1.0L has a history of problems with little bits of rubber clogging the oil pump sump strainer eventually leading to oil starvation.
Not sure if the 1.5L suffers the same fate.
I to was curious what a high mileage oil that is designed to expand and soften seals do to the rubber of a timing belt.
For me, I'd go the other way. I'd be using a 0W-20 to maximize cold flow to engine parts, to the timing belt. Keep that oil as thin as possible at a cold start up to get through oil sump for longevity.
I have an Ecosport with 1.0L nearing 100kmi, 97,000+ now. So far, so good. No concerning problems I'm aware of.
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It's a major undertaking. Remove oil pan, remove fuel injectors, high pressure fuel pump, coil packs remove belts and hoses remove valve covers. Use special tool lock the camshafts.
Remove accessory belt, remove crank pulley, remove tensioner, remove engine front cover.
I'm sure I missed a few. Just rattling some items off I'm aware of.
I think Ford service guide estimates 2 days or 16hrs for a timing belt replacement. $$$$'s spent.
Fair point! I just treat a A$38k car a little differently to a A$500 leaf blower ya know
No, as previously discussed, the 1.0L has a wet timing belt, and so does the 1.5L non-turbo 3cyl Dragon. But the 1.5L EcoBoost 3cyl Dragon has a timing chain with a wet-belt-driven oil pump
Again, the 1.5L EcoBoost Dragon does not have a wet timing belt. It has a timing chain.
Replacing the oil pump belt only requires the removal of the sump and the oil pump. That’s it.
I have 103,000 on my 2020 escape with the 1.5l 3 cyl with wet belt. So far so good here to . Fingers crossed.
You might want to look at having it changed.
I try but some dealers say i dont need to replace it and some say its a chain....im so confused as everything i see says the us 1.5l dragon ecoboost uses a wet timing belt and my manual say to change at 150,000 miles. This whole thing baffles me as I really like this car and want to maintain it but seems i cant!? I habe warranty until 125,000 miles after that I just wont feel comfortable driving this anymore. If anyone has any ideas i would really appreciate it as I have exhausted all my resources. Thanks everyone
It’s darned sure confusing. I may have to go down to my Ford Dealer and take a look. The obvious difference will be in the timing cover. A belt driven cam will be identified from the top width of the timing cover. The belt driven cam will have a slightly wider timing cover.I try but some dealers say i dont need to replace it and some say its a chain....im so confused as everything i see says the us 1.5l dragon ecoboost uses a wet timing belt and my manual say to change at 150,000 miles. This whole thing baffles me as I really like this car and want to maintain it but seems i cant!? I habe warranty until 125,000 miles after that I just wont feel comfortable driving this anymore. If anyone has any ideas i would really appreciate it as I have exhausted all my resources. Thanks everyone
The turbo 1.5 3cyl 100% has a timing chain. I’ve owned three cars with the Dragon EcoBoost and I’m a mechanic. It has a chain!I try but some dealers say i dont need to replace it and some say its a chain....im so confused as everything i see says the us 1.5l dragon ecoboost uses a wet timing belt and my manual say to change at 150,000 miles. This whole thing baffles me as I really like this car and want to maintain it but seems i cant!? I habe warranty until 125,000 miles after that I just wont feel comfortable driving this anymore. If anyone has any ideas i would really appreciate it as I have exhausted all my resources. Thanks everyone
The non-turbo 1.5 3cyl has a wet belt
The turbo 1.0 3cyl also has a wet belt
Have a look here. Good photos of the timing drive etc: Dragon Timing Tools
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I have to agree with you. It does indeed have a timing chain. Since that’s the case, I would consider this engine in a CUV.
How are you going to get the oil pump belt over the end of the crankshaft without removing the timing chain etc?
Same engine as in my '21 Escape.
I'm also enjoying the 34 MPG.
What does your OLM show for the % ?
Mine currently has 2,600 (on oil) miles with 36% left.
My odometer reads 7,600 miles (total) after doing a couple early oil changes.
Now I will be relying more on the OLM.
Edit: 2022 with 105,000 miles ? .... ? .... ?
Its
Its a 2021 now at 117,000 use it for courier work. I change it a dealer every 5,000 miles. So far been great
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