JHZR2
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All these stupid proprietary shape tablet like dashes won’t work in 20 years, while this will work good as new!
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2013 Pagani
the integrated climate/nav/audio touchscreens from 20 years ago are still going. dated, but fully functional
JHZR2
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still going… until they’re not, and then what?
you repair them
Exactly. Almost every 80's BMW on the road now either has had speedometer/odometer gears replaced, or needs them. The screens and electronic clusters will just require a new fix of some sort.
JHZR2
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Because these are irregularly shaped screens, deeply embedded into dashboards. Not a few gears on a shaft that can be easily worked on. Or a few solder pads to reflow.
Computer screens fail. LCD screens get bad pixels or failed backlights. And that’s in relatively benign conditions. Cars get horrifically hot and cold.
There is no standardized interface for cars. No vga, display port, etc. every screen is a custom job.
I’d love to know how many old screens are available as new replacement parts these days.
No, a screen based display for controls is completely different, and a poor comparison to the clusters of old.
If lots survive, great. At some point they won’t. And they’ll be much harder to repair than gauge clusters. It’s not that hard to comprehend that a million unique, proprietary screens don’t make for easy obsolescence management or combo repair parts as the years go by.
I mean, you can get a fully functioning android head unit for a 20 year old VW on AliExpress...
If the cars have a following, the aftermarket will support them. If not, then they'll die, like Chevettes and Cavaliers and every other crapbox throughout history.
JHZR2
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That’s not what I asked for. I couldn’t care what counterfeit Chinese junk is available on Aliexpress. Does any major manufacturer offer replacement screens for 10+ year old vehicles?!?
Ive fixed 40 year old gauge clusters. Parts are available. Heck, I can send my 40yo Becker head units back for refurbishment and Bluetooth upgrades.
Aliexpress is apples to oranges. This stuff won’t be supported by OE or OE functional equipment in 40 years.
Unless common backlights and digitizers and form factors become the norm, this stuff will all be throw away in a manner far different from the speedometers and clusters in even a chevette.
you can buy a digitizer for a 20 year old honda
if there is demand they are incredibly cheap and easy to make
since its now a dashboard thread, a few of the better ones from my present, and past....yeah, I'm a steam gauge guy;
Man, that Midget crammed a lot into a small space.
Man, that Midget crammed a lot into a small space.
Nice! I'd forgotten about these; 'Euro' gauges on a machine turned panel. Liked the steering wheel too. Did Canada get different gauge faces w/ the dual scales before we did? These seem busier than I remember.
You may be right, but I don't think so. Time will tell.
The Model 3 is followes the Japanese minimalistic approach. Uncluttered.
I can tell you that after driving the Model 3 and getting into the GS350 F Sport, I find the Lexus dash unnecessarily cluttered. I have to search for the right control. It sounds ridiculous, but it becomes a bit of a pain.
If I wanna set the temperature in the Tesla, I press the right button on the steering wheel and say, "I'm cold." Or "Set the temp to 70."
I do think Tesla needs heads up display and blind spot indicators on the outside mirrors.
I realize these cars are different and not for everyone. I say this all the time.
I can also tell you that people who grew up with computers take to the tablet interface naturally while others struggle with it.
My next door neighbor is on her 2nd Bolt; she greatly prefers it over our car.
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My first car was a 1966 Cortina. I loved the dash on that car.
Nice. Mine was a ‘68 and my second car. I put a rear sway bar on it and did a few parking lot gymkhanas. Good times.
The layout is ok, but too shiny
For me simple is better. My 1965 VW Beetle has a beauty of an instrument panel. Speedo with lights for oil/generator and turn signal and to the right a gas gauge that is mechanical. No computer to draw on the battery when parked and a radio AM/FM with push buttons that physically move the dial pointer.
Very cool! A real mans dashboard!
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