A personal auto ownership history story to share

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Back in 1967 when I was graduating from high school my dad agreed to let me buy a car. I was going to commute to college in the Detroit area and would need transportation to do so. My dad had a friend who lived in Birmingham Michigan who had a neighbor that worked at Chevrolet. I knew him as a staff engineer but unknown to me at the time he was so much more. Due to his position he was allowed two new cars every year. He could then sell those cars to anyone he desired but the money he got went back to the company. In 1965 he choose a Corvair Monza for his wife and a Impala convertible for himself. He sold those two cars to my dad's friend and his neighbor the following year as he did almost every year. Upon hearing that I would need a car my dad's friend offered me either of the Chevy's he had. Naturally I wanted the convertible but my dad nixed that quickly. I ended up with the now two year old Corvair for $1100.00. Now I know most of you probably think I got a raw deal and I thought so too at the time, but here's where the story gets good. The Corvair was a Monza with the 4- 1 barrel carb package and 4 spd manual trans. It was fun to drive, got great gas mileage, was great in the snow but the carbs were a pain in the butt to keep synchronized. It got a reputation as a poor man's Porsche. It was a beautiful deep green metallic with a tan leather interior. Note I said leather, not naugahyde as most cars had as premium trim back then. The car also had a wood steering wheel from a corvette and full instrumentation instead of a bunch of idiot lights so common back then. On the back side of the glove box door there was a small plack that read "Made for Ed Cole". How I wish I still had that car. I bet it would be worth a few bucks now-a-days. By 1970 it was dying a slow death from significant rust which most cars died from in those days. I had to trade it in on a new car. Had I known then what I know now I should have been sent to the same graveyard the car was probably sent too.

(Ed Cole at the time my Corvair was made was the chief staff engineer and head executive of the Chevrolet division. He designed the Corvair mechanicals and coordinated the redesign in 1965 after going head to head with ralph nader. I believe but can't confirm that the 65 corvair I got was one of the very first made. He later led the design and introduction of the Chevy Vega recognizing the need for small cars in the future. He became the President of GM in 1967 but was still very much an engineer at heart.)

Post note: In 1968 my dad's friend ended up getting a 1967 Firebird convertible (one of the first made) and a 67 GTO convertible. Mr. Cole had pretty good taste when it came to picking cars for himself (and eventually his neighbors!). Wish I or my dad could have picked one of those up.
 
I had a '65 Corvair Corsa. It had the 180 hp. turbo engine and four speed manual trans. Mine had the same suite of gauges. including a cylinder head temp gauge. Great car. Leaked a bit of oil from the pushrod tubes but they all did that. Put a set of Koni shocks,, quick steering arms and radial tires on it. Handled better than most cars today. Ran lots of gymkhanas and TSD rallies with it. Might be the best looking car GM ever designed. Wish I still had it.
 
I would love to have that Corvair Monza. I'd willingly deal with the carbs on that baby.
Back in those days corner gas stations had some pretty good mechanics. Luckily mine did. They had a device that was called a "unisync" (a glass tube with what looked like a ping pong ball in it). I believe it simply measured intake air flow to even out all the carbs. I'm sure there are far more sophisticated ways of doing it now.
 
That is a very good memory & one that means something. Seems the "Ed" wanted to bring the rest of his community up. I think you have a very good story & nothing less than that other convertible. You know now more than ever the whole situation was quite bigger than you imagined then. Thanks for sharing this.
 
"unisync"
Got one just like this in my tool box. Needed it to synch the carbs on some type three VWs (square back and fast back) and lots of British cars with SU and Solex side draft units.

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Back in 1967 when I was graduating from high school my dad agreed to let me buy a car. I was going to commute to college in the Detroit area and would need transportation to do so. My dad had a friend who lived in Birmingham Michigan who had a neighbor that worked at Chevrolet. I knew him as a staff engineer but unknown to me at the time he was so much more. Due to his position he was allowed two new cars every year. He could then sell those cars to anyone he desired but the money he got went back to the company. In 1965 he choose a Corvair Monza for his wife and a Impala convertible for himself. He sold those two cars to my dad's friend and his neighbor the following year as he did almost every year. Upon hearing that I would need a car my dad's friend offered me either of the Chevy's he had. Naturally I wanted the convertible but my dad nixed that quickly. I ended up with the now two year old Corvair for $1100.00. Now I know most of you probably think I got a raw deal and I thought so too at the time, but here's where the story gets good. The Corvair was a Monza with the 4- 1 barrel carb package and 4 spd manual trans. It was fun to drive, got great gas mileage, was great in the snow but the carbs were a pain in the butt to keep synchronized. It got a reputation as a poor man's Porsche. It was a beautiful deep green metallic with a tan leather interior. Note I said leather, not naugahyde as most cars had as premium trim back then. The car also had a wood steering wheel from a corvette and full instrumentation instead of a bunch of idiot lights so common back then. On the back side of the glove box door there was a small plack that read "Made for Ed Cole". How I wish I still had that car. I bet it would be worth a few bucks now-a-days. By 1970 it was dying a slow death from significant rust which most cars died from in those days. I had to trade it in on a new car. Had I known then what I know now I should have been sent to the same graveyard the car was probably sent too.

(Ed Cole at the time my Corvair was made was the chief staff engineer and head executive of the Chevrolet division. He designed the Corvair mechanicals and coordinated the redesign in 1965 after going head to head with ralph nader. I believe but can't confirm that the 65 corvair I got was one of the very first made. He later led the design and introduction of the Chevy Vega recognizing the need for small cars in the future. He became the President of GM in 1967 but was still very much an engineer at heart.)

Post note: In 1968 my dad's friend ended up getting a 1967 Firebird convertible (one of the first made) and a 67 GTO convertible. Mr. Cole had pretty good taste when it came to picking cars for himself (and eventually his neighbors!). Wish I or my dad could have picked one of those up.
Great story thanks
 
I had a '65 Corvair Corsa. It had the 180 hp. turbo engine and four speed manual trans. Mine had the same suite of gauges. including a cylinder head temp gauge. Great car. Leaked a bit of oil from the pushrod tubes but they all did that. Put a set of Koni shocks,, quick steering arms and radial tires on it. Handled better than most cars today. Ran lots of gymkhanas and TSD rallies with it. Might be the best looking car GM ever designed. Wish I still had it.
Dad bought one when I was about 8 yrs old. The corvair is what hooked me for life at that young age on cars. Unfortunately Ralph Nader (look him up kiddies) and my mother put a fast end to that car. Dad always joked that she tormented him until he traded it in.
 
A great story. I had a couple of friends who owned Corvairs; that was the era when GM was really adventurous and innovative.
 
Ralph Nader
At 91 Nader is still an authentic, excentric crusader. The rumor, (maybe true) for a long time is that he never had a driver's license. He is a lawyer not an automotive engineer and if GM had any cajones back then they should have ignored him. The first generation corvair had a simple single privot swing axle just like the VW beetle. At high cornering speed it could cause the inside wheel to tuck in. It could be overdriven by any tyro into an oversteer situation. Most normal drivers would never reach that level of cornering so the moniker 'Unsafe at any speed' was patently untrue.

The second gen corvair had a a double jointed rear axle 'a la the corvette. The handling contretemps was corrected but maybe too late for the beautiful corvair to soldier on. Leaves enthusiasts to muse what could have been.

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Back in 1967 when I was graduating from high school my dad agreed to let me buy a car. I was going to commute to college in the Detroit area and would need transportation to do so. My dad had a friend who lived in Birmingham Michigan who had a neighbor that worked at Chevrolet. I knew him as a staff engineer but unknown to me at the time he was so much more. Due to his position he was allowed two new cars every year. He could then sell those cars to anyone he desired but the money he got went back to the company. In 1965 he choose a Corvair Monza for his wife and a Impala convertible for himself. He sold those two cars to my dad's friend and his neighbor the following year as he did almost every year. Upon hearing that I would need a car my dad's friend offered me either of the Chevy's he had. Naturally I wanted the convertible but my dad nixed that quickly. I ended up with the now two year old Corvair for $1100.00. Now I know most of you probably think I got a raw deal and I thought so too at the time, but here's where the story gets good. The Corvair was a Monza with the 4- 1 barrel carb package and 4 spd manual trans. It was fun to drive, got great gas mileage, was great in the snow but the carbs were a pain in the butt to keep synchronized. It got a reputation as a poor man's Porsche. It was a beautiful deep green metallic with a tan leather interior. Note I said leather, not naugahyde as most cars had as premium trim back then. The car also had a wood steering wheel from a corvette and full instrumentation instead of a bunch of idiot lights so common back then. On the back side of the glove box door there was a small plack that read "Made for Ed Cole". How I wish I still had that car. I bet it would be worth a few bucks now-a-days. By 1970 it was dying a slow death from significant rust which most cars died from in those days. I had to trade it in on a new car. Had I known then what I know now I should have been sent to the same graveyard the car was probably sent too.

(Ed Cole at the time my Corvair was made was the chief staff engineer and head executive of the Chevrolet division. He designed the Corvair mechanicals and coordinated the redesign in 1965 after going head to head with ralph nader. I believe but can't confirm that the 65 corvair I got was one of the very first made. He later led the design and introduction of the Chevy Vega recognizing the need for small cars in the future. He became the President of GM in 1967 but was still very much an engineer at heart.)

Post note: In 1968 my dad's friend ended up getting a 1967 Firebird convertible (one of the first made) and a 67 GTO convertible. Mr. Cole had pretty good taste when it came to picking cars for himself (and eventually his neighbors!). Wish I or my dad could have picked one of those up.
Great story. You are older than I am since you got to drive in 1967. I was just about 8 to 9 years old when my dad came home with his Corvair. He bought/leased/traded/sold so many cars I still cant recall too much about many of them. YET I liked and never forgot that car,
 
@GaryMX5 can I have the Goat? '67 was a great year!
Never had the Goat or the Firebird, but got to drive both when my dad's friend had them. The Firebird was a dog. It had the 326 with the 2 barrel carb and 2 speed powerglide. The GTO had the base 4 barrel 400 cu. in. motor with a 3 spd. turbo hydramatic. That was a nice car for sure. What's interesting is that the Firebird also came with a OHC straight six. The H.O./ Sprint version made something like 215 HP. It came with a 3 speed on the floor and easily kicked the 326 2 barrel's butt (even though it was rated at 250 HP or so.) That high winding six was a torque monster and sounded really nice as well! They also put that 6 cyl motor and trans in a LeMans. Had several friends who could not afford GTO's who had them. They were a lot of fun and surprised a lot of small V8s.
 
I don't think anyone who's 6' 4" like me could ever fit comfortably in a Monza. I looked at one in 1976 and quickly realized NO WAY.
I'm surprised. I'm six foot and had friends several inches taller than me that never complained when they drove mine on road trips. Cars back then had more seat travel and head room in general. Yes, it made the rear seat basically unusable but the rear seat back was also a fold down parcel shelf which is where I left it most of the time. Smaller cars back then were not necessarily small compared to current compacts etc. Yes, my car looked small next to my dad's 65 Pontiac Catalina station wagon. Note: You could lay a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the rear of that car and it only hung out a foot or so onto the open tailgate. I would sleep back there in a sleeping bag with ample head and leg room. It was huge!! The corvair felt just right!
 
I've driven every version of Corvair. In laws had a Esso station and were Corvair specialists. Turbo version driven well would easily beat a few V8's.
I had a beetle, the Corvair was twice the car of any air cooled VW. Especially Gen 2 Corvair's.
My '64 bug truly was unsafe at any speed.
 
I've driven every version of Corvair. In laws had a Esso station and were Corvair specialists. Turbo version driven well would easily beat a few V8's.
I had a beetle, the Corvair was twice the car of any air cooled VW. Especially Gen 2 Corvair's.
My '64 bug truly was unsafe at any speed.
It's funny how the book and a single chapter is remembered about the early Corvair, but Nader wrote a lot about the Beetle.

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