BAD movies.

There are objective metrics by which one can rate a movie. A good movie must have compelling characters the viewer cares about.
No. This is just like your opinion. Man.

OK sorta true - depends on the movie/show. I just started Westworld (newer HBO show, not ancient movie). Good, despite the porn. There isn't really one character I really care about - sure the writers want the viewer t care about the head hooker host, the rancher's daughter host, or even the sorta more innocent guest, or the man in the black hat...........but I don't care. I watch the story unfold.
 
No consensus was reached.

A bunch of completely subjective opinions were offered. Entire genres were dismissed.

Feelings replaced thoughtful critique.

Movies are a form of art. Some movies tell a compelling story. Some are great examples of the art.

Some are not.

Without defining what is good in movies, this thread has failed in defining what is bad.
I tried man, I tried! LOL!
 
I tried man, I tried! LOL!

I was specifically referencing your logically-sequenced approach to it when I was saying "I believe a consensus has been reached."

In reality, I'm still a bit confused from the start, I don't recall if I was referencing "entire genres" to discard them.. I did mention "a bad movie is something different to every person".. I know this is BITOG, where things can be discussed to the point like one may feel like they are listening to a dissertation at Harvard.. or giving one.. yes, you did try, OVERKILL. lol.

But I'm not sure I would call the Kenwoods you buy at Radio Shack "speakers" or.. what did you reference? Panasonics? Maybe I can interject.. GPX 4 LIFE! (I have had quite a few GPX units as a teen and pre-teen, including boom boxes that RECORD!!! Right in the speaker!!! lol, and knock-off Walkmans. Discmans were out of GPX's league for me, which is why I got a.. Fisher. With 10 second buffer!!!) 😮🤣🤣

But for real though, I think your post is why I say there IS consensus.. and that is, that, it is subjective, different for every one, and I would agree there are some criterion. (Such as, overall acting.. which is subjective.. but perhaps more overall production. I do recall Star Wars initial production quality being questioned, though I'm the ultimate "A piano is a box of wood and strings" person on that, thanks Matt Damon in The Departed, can not really stand that guy. Think James Earl Jones visible through a visor. Which would make me laugh, and add to it, for me, actually, lol. As to Matt Damon.. That's not acting, that's being a natural jerk LOL. It is more realistic if it is natural. Not acting.) 🙂 https://www.quora.com/How-were-old-Star-Wars-films-enhanced
 
No. This is just like your opinion. Man.

OK sorta true - depends on the movie/show. I just started Westworld (newer HBO show, not ancient movie). Good, despite the porn. There isn't really one character I really care about - sure the writers want the viewer t care about the head hooker host, the rancher's daughter host, or even the sorta more innocent guest, or the man in the black hat...........but I don't care. I watch the story unfold.
The only thing I like about Westworld is the title sequence and that's not enough for me. Despite knowing Jar Jar Abrahams was behind the show I gave it a chance and watched the first season which was alright initially because it explored the nature of consciousness and the morality of death, violence, and sex, as entertainment without consequences in this futuristic amusement park. Those ideas at least were compelling. I gave up after a couple episodes into the second season when the show was getting convoluted without any clear direction and mired in pointless subplots. They even used non-chronological storytelling to hide being utterly lost without any ideas about where to go. I was getting increasingly bored and irritated and no longer cared about what would happen to those characters or where the story was going. The Man in Black, the 30-year Westworld veteran visitor who was such a menace in Season 1 became a weak, decrepit, inept character in Season 2. Like all other Jar Jar Abrahams shows this one also strings the viewer along by pulling ever more questions out of Jar Jar's Mystery Box without ever answering the most pressing questions. Remember Lost, anyone? I know there's a Westworld Season 3. Even more woke Mary Sue androids would be my guess. I don't need that and I don't even care to find out. I've had enough of this :poop:.

What a hack Jar Jar Abrahams is.
 
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I was specifically referencing your logically-sequenced approach to it when I was saying "I believe a consensus has been reached."

In reality, I'm still a bit confused from the start, I don't recall if I was referencing "entire genres" to discard them.. I did mention "a bad movie is something different to every person".. I know this is BITOG, where things can be discussed to the point like one may feel like they are listening to a dissertation at Harvard.. or giving one.. yes, you did try, OVERKILL. lol.

But I'm not sure I would call the Kenwoods you buy at Radio Shack "speakers" or.. what did you reference? Panasonics? Maybe I can interject.. GPX 4 LIFE! (I have had quite a few GPX units as a teen and pre-teen, including boom boxes that RECORD!!! Right in the speaker!!! lol, and knock-off Walkmans. Discmans were out of GPX's league for me, which is why I got a.. Fisher. With 10 second buffer!!!) 😮🤣🤣

But for real though, I think your post is why I say there IS consensus.. and that is, that, it is subjective, different for every one, and I would agree there are some criterion. (Such as, overall acting.. which is subjective.. but perhaps more overall production. I do recall Star Wars initial production quality being questioned, though I'm the ultimate "A piano is a box of wood and strings" person on that, thanks Matt Damon in The Departed, can not really stand that guy. Think James Earl Jones visible through a visor. Which would make me laugh, and add to it, for me, actually, lol. As to Matt Damon.. That's not acting, that's being a natural jerk LOL. It is more realistic if it is natural. Not acting.) 🙂 https://www.quora.com/How-were-old-Star-Wars-films-enhanced
Who sold GPX? I vaguely remember that brand but can’t remember where I used to see it.
 
The only thing I like about Westworld is the title sequence and that's not enough for me. Despite knowing Jar Jar Abrahams was behind the show I gave it a chance and watched the first season which was alright initially because it explored the nature of consciousness and the morality of death, violence, and sex, as entertainment without consequences in this futuristic amusement park. Those ideas at least were compelling. I gave up after a couple episodes into the second season when the show was getting convoluted without any clear direction and mired in pointless subplots. They even used non-chronological storytelling to hide being utterly lost without any ideas about where to go. I was getting increasingly bored and irritated and no longer cared about what would happen to those characters or where the story was going. The Man in Black, the 30-year Westworld veteran visitor who was such a menace in Season 1 became a weak, decrepit, inept character in Season 2. Like all other Jar Jar Abrahams shows this one also strings the viewer along by pulling ever more questions out of Jar Jar's Mystery Box without ever answering the most pressing questions. Remember Lost, anyone? I know there's a Westworld Season 3. Even more woke Mary Sue androids would be my guess. I don't need that and I don't even care to find out.

What a hack Jar Jar Abrahams is.

You unwittingly made my point.

I'm on season 1. I was exactly afraid of what you wrote. Sucks.
 
Who sold GPX? I vaguely remember that brand but can’t remember where I used to see it.

K-mart, *possibly* The Wiz/Nobody Beats the Wiz thought they sold Aiwa.. you can find GPX right next to Coby at Rite Aid etc..

Mine had even bigger speakers than these! Oh man I used to love putting these by the pool. My neighbors had a super duper Sony that was louder! We used to put them back to back and.. man, life just used to be FUN, ya know.

Not anymore...

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K-mart, *possibly* The Wiz/Nobody Beats the Wiz thought they sold Aiwa.. you can find GPX right next to Coby at Rite Aid etc..

Mine had even bigger speakers than these! Oh man I used to love putting these by the pool. My neighbors had a super duper Sony that was louder! We used to put them back to back and.. man, life just used to be FUN, ya know.

Not anymore...

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I still have an Aiwa F990 cassette deck from maybe 1982-83. I think it needs the belts replaced.
 
I still have an Aiwa F990 cassette deck from maybe 1982-83. I think it needs the belts replaced.

I used to tape the cassettes together when the (car) tape decks would eat them. Minimal interruption. Happened more on the 100 and 110 minute tapes.. they did have 120 minutes tapes.. Maxell and TDK..
 
I used to tape the cassettes together when the (car) tape decks would eat them. Minimal interruption. Happened more on the 100 and 110 minute tapes.. they did have 120 minutes tapes.. Maxell and TDK..
My deck's owner's manual recommended to only use a maximum of 90 min cassettes and warned not to use 110 and 120 min cassettes for that reason. Probably because the tape on those was so thin I'm guessing.
 
There have been threads like this before.

It's a matter of taste. Bad means bad, not because you simply didn't like it. I thought "O brother." had some extremely funny scenes. It simply was not a BAD movie.

Frankly ANY movie with Jack Nicholson, Sigourny Weaver, or Will Farrell = TERRIBLE
Sigourney Weaver was the ultimate villain in Paul.
 
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