You understand there is no such thing, right? And for good reason.
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I'm not in the market, but I'd buy a PHEV. But not an EV. Too many issues charging, too expensive to have an electrician wire a bigger outlet into our garage, and EV's are too expensive in general.
We’ve been living under emissions regulations since the 70’s. I’d say the time to fix it has already run out.
My local electric company will rebate me the cost to install the EV charging outlet up to $1500.
Electric vehicles were around in the early 1900’s , and seemed to be quite applicable.
Why were they stopped , and then redeveloped 100 years later?
"OIL": advances in the chemistry, mining, transport, etc...
Yeah, we have offers here too, not sure if that much or not.
GM will do it for free if you purchase one of their cars.
The electric company wants to sell you electricity instead of you buying gas. Plus they get to write off the $1,500 as a business expense, as does GM I guess.
Yup, that makes sense but due to factors that I don't understand, electric companies often seem to want to sell you less electricity.
"...that makes sense..."
thinkin it all makes sense. Some support, as in any early tech evolution, assists
toward the greater good nation wide (Rural Electrification legislation grew the nation
if askin me). Love to see fed/local effort like that here. May be the colleges (only make
money on sports, room'n board, and industry partnerships) and a manafacturer collaborate
ina way to challange musk? Apts over X# of units need X# chargers for permitting /or/ apposite
LIHTC like tax break for inclusion (heck, Y not both?)... (related yet different:
https://www.michigandaily.com/campu...mpetes-in-world-solar-challenge-in-australia/
).
thinkin it all makes sense. Some support, as in any early tech evolution, assists
toward the greater good nation wide (Rural Electrification legislation grew the nation
if askin me). Love to see fed/local effort like that here. May be the colleges (only make
money on sports, room'n board, and industry partnerships) and a manafacturer collaborate
ina way to challange musk? Apts over X# of units need X# chargers for permitting /or/ apposite
LIHTC like tax break for inclusion (heck, Y not both?)... (related yet different:
https://www.michigandaily.com/campu...mpetes-in-world-solar-challenge-in-australia/
).
IMHO an EV or PHEV with a decent amount of EV range are a very good option if you live in or around a City.
For longer journeys an EV is a pain.
A PHEV can just be driven on petrol or diesel with a small hit on fuel economy because of the extra weight
I am driving a BMW 230e XDrive this week as my car is in for some Warranty work.
The 230e has well over 300bhp and does 0-50 in just over 5 seconds, which for a small 5 seater MOV is actually pretty hilarious
It’s as ugly as sin though.
And the infotainment no longer has a separate iDrive controller so it’s a pain to use.
Has an EV range of 52 miles which is enough to make it usable.
If I was going on a long journey, which I will on Thursday I will just drive it in whichever hybrid mode the car chooses.
My 745Le can be made to charge up during a journey and then switches to EV mode when it gets to specified City centres.
Though I don’t know why the EU is so full of this Net Zero rubbish.
The UK and EU make little difference globally and the Chinese and Indian Governments don’t care.
It does seem like the UK and EU want to make their economies uncompetitive to further move jobs to China and India
For longer journeys an EV is a pain.
A PHEV can just be driven on petrol or diesel with a small hit on fuel economy because of the extra weight
I am driving a BMW 230e XDrive this week as my car is in for some Warranty work.
The 230e has well over 300bhp and does 0-50 in just over 5 seconds, which for a small 5 seater MOV is actually pretty hilarious
It’s as ugly as sin though.
And the infotainment no longer has a separate iDrive controller so it’s a pain to use.
Has an EV range of 52 miles which is enough to make it usable.
If I was going on a long journey, which I will on Thursday I will just drive it in whichever hybrid mode the car chooses.
My 745Le can be made to charge up during a journey and then switches to EV mode when it gets to specified City centres.
Though I don’t know why the EU is so full of this Net Zero rubbish.
The UK and EU make little difference globally and the Chinese and Indian Governments don’t care.
It does seem like the UK and EU want to make their economies uncompetitive to further move jobs to China and India
I think the only ICE I'd consider is an X3 or X4 M or MCOMP. That is roughly in line with the price of my EV, if I were to buy the ///M pre-owned, with similar performance. The fly in the ointment is the operating costs, which are astronomical in comparison.
This and battery technology lagged behind. Whether that was lack of advancement based on at the the time current advancements or fuel being cheaper, EV wasn't the chosen option. The main reason batteries have improved is how powerful our mobile devices are these days. That made massive leaps forward.
GM, Ford who are bullish with EVs cannot build anything profitable/competive besides SUV/Full Size ICE trucks.
They needed to stick to profits and find a future aquistion to get a decent team on EVs. Or seed the money there.
They needed to stick to profits and find a future aquistion to get a decent team on EVs. Or seed the money there.
There trying to lower peak. The difference in demand between off peak to peak could be double depending on the area. So they either need to build more generation or find a way to lower peak.
Commercial demand runs pretty evenly from say 8AM to 6PM. Think schools, govco, office, etc. There are incentives for them as well, but since business can deduct any expense, they often do things on their own. ie if I upgrade my commercial HVAC, and write the expense off on taxes, the ROI is very quick.
Industrial has no peak - its a 24 hour business in general. A lot of industrial customers shed loads during peak in order to get more favorable rates from the utility off peak anyway.
That leaves residential. At 5:30PM you get home from work, turn the HVAC on high, turn on every light, every TV, your electric oven and plug in your EV. Demand goes through the roof. Anything the utility can do to lower this peak is money they don't have to spend on increasing generation.
Yes and no.
Hybrid helps keeping the engine practical size (you can still have a bigger engine running atkinson cycle and make it practially a smaller engine) smaller, and therefore keep it in the optimal efficiency band instead of designing it for the acceleration need and oversize it. Sure CVT does some of that but you still need the power to accelerate and CVT, stop start, etc can't do that without a battery. Then you also add regen braking and that also help a lot in the energy use in local traffic.
This is the reason why hybrid is the best thing for emission and fuel economy money can buy now. It really nets a real emission and fuel consumption reduction instead of just shifting it around.
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I was just noting that with a PHEV in particular, since you can drive around on 100% battery in-town, any emissions generated are going to be on longer trips outside city centres, where they are more easily dispersed.
They did that with like, Chevy Spark, Nissan Leaf, etc. Didn't cost much less than 35k and they didn't get much interest other than from cheap skate who won't spend money.
Elon saw this, and knows, that you need a luxury car (at least in MSRP) to hide an expensive battery.
I think I read somewhere that the partial throttle low rpm driving situation is still best suited for port injection. However I've also seen Mazda did their only direct injection Skyactiv engine well and it burns hot enough to avoid intake valve deposit problem and still not have NOX problem. Not sure how they did that but those guys in Mazda are really amazing at what they did without spending R&D for hybrid, CVT, or EV.