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Pablo,
I don't think that she's guilty, and certainly not guilty "beyond reasonable doubt".
She states that she boarded a plane in Queensland, transferred to the Bali flight in Sydney, and turned up in Bali with 4Kg marijuana in her body board bag, with no concept on how it got there.
Interesting tidbits that pop up through the case:
* one expert states that it would have cost her more to buy the marijuana than she would make;
* another expert states that it was hydroponic, and she'd net $80k;
* The Bali Police failed to fingerprint the plastic bag, therefore no evidence that she ever touched it;
* A guy in an Oz prison, testifies that he overheard some inmates joking that "one of Mr. X's shipments has gone missing again", while referring to the case;
* he goes over to testify, returns, and has been bashed, slashed and stabbed in prison;
* literally days later, a baggage handler is sacked for opening a passenger's luggage, removing a costume, and parading around the terminal in it (in full view of the passenger);
* Qantas baggage handlers (including some which were working the day the girl flew) are busted trafficking cocain, in very much the same manner.
As I stated previously, I think that the "reasonable doubt" aspect should certainly have got her off, and deep down I believe that she didn't do it.
I think that the judges aren't quite sure either, as 20 years is a very lenient sentence for the crime.
The "Bali 9" as they are being called by the media is a lot more cut and dried, people trying to leave the country with drugs taped to their thighs/waists.
I don't think that she's guilty, and certainly not guilty "beyond reasonable doubt".
She states that she boarded a plane in Queensland, transferred to the Bali flight in Sydney, and turned up in Bali with 4Kg marijuana in her body board bag, with no concept on how it got there.
Interesting tidbits that pop up through the case:
* one expert states that it would have cost her more to buy the marijuana than she would make;
* another expert states that it was hydroponic, and she'd net $80k;
* The Bali Police failed to fingerprint the plastic bag, therefore no evidence that she ever touched it;
* A guy in an Oz prison, testifies that he overheard some inmates joking that "one of Mr. X's shipments has gone missing again", while referring to the case;
* he goes over to testify, returns, and has been bashed, slashed and stabbed in prison;
* literally days later, a baggage handler is sacked for opening a passenger's luggage, removing a costume, and parading around the terminal in it (in full view of the passenger);
* Qantas baggage handlers (including some which were working the day the girl flew) are busted trafficking cocain, in very much the same manner.
As I stated previously, I think that the "reasonable doubt" aspect should certainly have got her off, and deep down I believe that she didn't do it.
I think that the judges aren't quite sure either, as 20 years is a very lenient sentence for the crime.
The "Bali 9" as they are being called by the media is a lot more cut and dried, people trying to leave the country with drugs taped to their thighs/waists.
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I've had stuff disappear ( I call that "stolen") from my checked-in luggage, and that was just okay with the airline. If they can take stuff out, who says they can't put stuff in? It's best to fly only with carry-on luggage. I've been doing this for years.
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I don't think she'll fit in the overhead.
The Australian Government offered her and her family the services of two top QCs free of charge. Either through stupidity or arrogance, they refused
Losiho,
I think that the QCs were offered for the appeal process, not the original trial, although the Oz Govt is said to have contributed financially to the original trial (with a lawyer(?) that doesn't seem to good at law).
could be wrong, 'though
I think that the QCs were offered for the appeal process, not the original trial, although the Oz Govt is said to have contributed financially to the original trial (with a lawyer(?) that doesn't seem to good at law).
could be wrong, 'though
The QCs said they contacted her legal team in March, but they never returned their calls.
I'm not an Ozzie, but...
I don't think she did it. 9 pounds in a suitcase going through Int'l an airport? No way!
Even if she did do it, it's only a naturally-occuring weed that grows wild on all continents. So what?
The people who were convicted of the Bali bombing--that killed mostly Austrailian national--received sentences as low as a few months.
A nation of such people has given up has given up its right to exist.
I don't think she did it. 9 pounds in a suitcase going through Int'l an airport? No way!
Even if she did do it, it's only a naturally-occuring weed that grows wild on all continents. So what?
The people who were convicted of the Bali bombing--that killed mostly Austrailian national--received sentences as low as a few months.
A nation of such people has given up has given up its right to exist.
Her defence team really $crewed up.
As Shannow said, no fingerprints were taken, when the defence finally got around to questioning that, they didn't appear to push hard enough, no weights were taken of the bags in Bali to tally against check in weights in Brisbane, no tests were done on the origin or quality of the grass.....
None of these anomolies and sloppy police work appeared to be questioned, or pushed by the defence team.
The facts as stated by the prosecution,
she admitted the boogie board bag was hers, 4.1 kg of grass was in the bag.
These facts weren't refuted. No plausible explanation was given by the defence of how it got there if she wasn't a trafficer.
She's convicted.
the best that can be hoped for is that she is granted a Presidential pardon.
As Shannow said, no fingerprints were taken, when the defence finally got around to questioning that, they didn't appear to push hard enough, no weights were taken of the bags in Bali to tally against check in weights in Brisbane, no tests were done on the origin or quality of the grass.....
None of these anomolies and sloppy police work appeared to be questioned, or pushed by the defence team.
The facts as stated by the prosecution,
she admitted the boogie board bag was hers, 4.1 kg of grass was in the bag.
These facts weren't refuted. No plausible explanation was given by the defence of how it got there if she wasn't a trafficer.
She's convicted.
the best that can be hoped for is that she is granted a Presidential pardon.
Jaycee, thats not exactly fair, is it.
The penalties for drug trafficking throughout Asia are generally death.
When in another country, as in another's house, respect for their customs and laws should be observed.
The people of Bali are a wonderful people, and the hysteria by some Aussies calling for boycotts, etc really distresses and angers me.
One of my best friends was involved in the Bali bombing investigations, (he's in the Federal Police) and he has only good things to say about the Balinese, Javanese and Indonesian Police.
So I think your comments are out of line.
Totally outrageous and a miscarriage of justice. I understand the public outrage.
Sorry TDI-Rick, but these people deserve what South Africa got from us. They were good people, too, but ...I guess I'm just being pompous but, I can't do anything about my belief in English common law and concepts of right and wrong.
Any English speaking person that suffers injustice and is not treated fairly bothers me and I can't help that.
Sorry TDI-Rick, but these people deserve what South Africa got from us. They were good people, too, but ...I guess I'm just being pompous but, I can't do anything about my belief in English common law and concepts of right and wrong.
Any English speaking person that suffers injustice and is not treated fairly bothers me and I can't help that.
Well said!
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Check out what the bloggers and people in this region have to say about it here:
http://www.mrbrown.com/blog/2005/05/maybe_the_bali_.html
Trafficking pot in Bali: 20 years
Blowing up more than 200 innocent people in Bali: 30 months
The irony of it all: Priceless
http://www.mrbrown.com/blog/2005/05/maybe_the_bali_.html
Trafficking pot in Bali: 20 years
Blowing up more than 200 innocent people in Bali: 30 months
The irony of it all: Priceless
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