ATF for Kia specifying SP-III ATF?

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I have a 2010 Kia Sedona with an automatic trans. It specs Kia SP-III ATF. It now has 220k miles and I have owned it for the past 30k miles. It runs very well. I want to keep it going. You can not change the ATF filter with out pulling the Transaxle so it has never been done and likely never will. It has a magnetic drain plug that makes draining and filling easy. Many on the Kia forum suggest the Valvoline MaxLife ATF. When you do a drain and fill you get about 50% out. I just did one with the Valvoline MaxLife and I noticed a slightly smoother shifting right a way. After about 1000 miles I noticed when taking my foot off of the gas the trans sometimes will not clutch out the engine as soon or as well. Does that make sense to folks? I am wondering if the seal conditioners in the Valvoline MaxLife ATF is effecting something? I do not have any leaks but I thought at the mileage and age I am at, it would not hurt and may help going forward. I am thinking of doing another drain and fill with a different ATF. Maybe the Valvoline Full Synthetic Extended Protection? It is more money but it does not have the seal conditioners and it claims to protect better. Another $25 or $35 is nothing in the big picture if it prevents a problem. Heck, $100 more may be well spent money. At the age and mileage , I am reading against doing a flush. Looking for thoughts from the good knowledgeable people here.

p.s. I asked Perplexity "Is SPIV backward compatible?" I am paraphrasing here but It said only if it claims to be on the packaging. Interesting and safe answer. I think my Mail man could have given me that answer. Bar tender or who ever you want to substitute.
 
Think I would talk to a dealer first. I have gone thru this with a 2014 santa fe and gave up. dealer service only. good luck. Trans OK at 135K miles so far.

I don;t like multipurpose fluids, so that leaves me out of maxlife world.
 
At that mileage I would advise against a complete flush. As far as which fluid I don't think it would much matter. I have always used the Max Life in my Hyundai/Kia products without problems. At 220K mileage I suspect something is just wearing out.
 
Went through this with mine and a couple colleagues older Hyundais. Nothing I tried has made a greater difference than just having fresh fluid. Maxlife, import mv, Castrol import, atf +4. I would try the aisin application specific spIII personally but maxlife is just fine
 
I too used Maxlife in a 2007 Sportage and it ran great. However this was a few years back before Valvoline added CVT coverage. Can't say how the current brew would work but likely is fine. I don't know if it's the same transmission but I also got right at 50 percent capacity to drain out. You should try 2 more drain and fills with Maxlife then go from there. As an aside Valvoline Import ATF is a hair thicker if you want to go that route.
 
I have the blue bottle Valvoline Multi Vehicle Import in my son's 2010 Forte. It had the Maxlife red after a 3x flush for a while, maybe I'm imagining but the Multi Vehicle blue I think shifts a bit better, he's at 202k miles.

All the places say the newer lower viscosity versions are backward compatible and fresh of something is best. In another vehicle, '08 CRV, I had choice between the lower viscosity or the slightly higher viscosity. I emailed the company, High Performance Lubricants, and they recommended the higher viscosity as it was closer to the original Z-1 it came with. I went with that and all is well. I applied the same logic to the Forte.
 
The newer Restore and Protect ATF might be a good idea to help clean up the internals. Also, adding Lubegard Red to what you have now and running it about 2K might help as well.
 
You bought the car with 190K miles and have done your first D&F at 220K miles. Any idea of the maintenance history and if SP-III has always been used? What was the condition of the fluid that came out? Burnt smelling? You should celebrate that tranny has lasted that long, is the vehicle a 4 cyl or the 3.5L V6? My son's 2010 Santa Fe 3.5 had the tranny go out at 160k and it was serviced every 40-60k miles.
 
I've had an SP-III vehicle, a 2007 Kia Rondo. I had good luck using Castrol Transmax, it was more similar in viscosity to the SP-III at the time I used it, in the low 7s CST at 100C. Not sure if they still make it. It was available at Walmart in the era that I owned this vehicle.

The Maxlife is more like an LV fluid, I believe below 6CST. I've had issues using Maxlife on a Toyota with shift flares and whatnot. I'm not opposed to using universals, but I'd stick to similar viscosities.
 
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