atf +4...where is it in the realm of mercon, dexron, asian type 3/ type 4?

[kmrcstintn]

new vehicle uses atf +4 in auto trans & steering system (18 dodge journey); just curious is it really different from other atf like mercon v, dexron vi, or asian type 3/type 4? synthetic, semi synthetic? high or low viscosity? acceptable substitute to use after warranty (I read various posts touting maxlife)

 

[doitmyself]

Member martinq posted the chart below. ATF+4 is a high quality synthetic fluid required to meet FCA's strict specifications whether it is Walmart Supertech brand or any name brand. https://www.centerforqa.com/chrysler-about/

It is relatively inexpensive. There is no reason to use a substitute unless you want to step up to a boutique product like Redline (isn't licensed).

Source: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...15583/all/PQIA_tests_five_ATFs_-_one_get

 

[demarpaint]

I'd stick with ATF+4 and not fool around with a universal ATF. Especially when you can get Supertech ATF+4 at Walmart, or Castrol ATF+4 on sale a few times a year at AAP or Auto Zone.

 

[Snagglefoot]

Someone say Castrol ATF4?

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Any licensed ATF+4 is the same and ok to use on your Journey. Walmart ST ATF+4 is on the list, so it it ok to use

The best ATF+4 to use is Redline C+, but it does cost more and isn't licensed

 

[Bullwinkle007]

I would Run Redline, I believe they call it C4

 

[toneydoc]

demarpaint said it
buy ATF +4 when it is on sale and don't worry about it

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle007
I would Run Redline, I believe they call it C4

I would not. Not only is it not licensed the only performance nod it has over ATF+4 is at the south pole.

 

[zeng]

Originally Posted by demarpaint
I'd stick with ATF+4 and not fool around with a universal ATF.

Exactly.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Originally Posted by zeng
Originally Posted by demarpaint
I'd stick with ATF+4 and not fool around with a universal ATF.

Exactly.

Seconded... if it's a Chrysler, don't mess around. Besides, if its a licensed ATF+4 it'll work fine no matter WHO mfgs it.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
Any licensed ATF+4 is the same and ok to use on your Journey. Walmart ST ATF+4 is on the list, so it it ok to use

The best ATF+4 to use is Redline C+, but it does cost more and isn't licensed

This makes no sense at all...

 

[dave1251]

It doesn't and comparing the two the Redline product does not stand out.

 

[kmrcstintn]

thanks all...atf +4 it will be! have some 'multipurpose' type 4 qts leftover from previous vehicle ('15 patriot with hyundai 6-speed auto...didn't know it was a sealed trans early on when I bought the extra trans fluid);

 

[Sayjac]

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….. acceptable substitute to use after warranty (I read various posts touting maxlife)
While I use ML MV and recommend it for many applications, including Honda and Toyota as listed on the ML spec sheet, ATF+4 is NOT included there. Thus, couldn't recommend for that application. Seem ATF+4 readily available and reasonably priced, so logical choice.

Interesting ATF Kinematic graph. I'd add that as noted on graph bottom the trend is toward lower viscosity ATF, correlated with move to synthetic based ATF fluids.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted by Sayjac
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….. acceptable substitute to use after warranty (I read various posts touting maxlife)
While I use ML MV and recommend it for many applications, including Honda and Toyota as listed on the ML spec sheet, ATF+4 is NOT included there. Thus, couldn't recommend for that application. Seem ATF+4 readily available and reasonably priced, so logical choice.

Interesting ATF Kinematic graph. I'd add that as noted on graph bottom the trend is toward lower viscosity ATF, correlated with move to synthetic based ATF fluids.



I agree with you here. I'll use Maxlife ATF in a lot of transmissions but the friction difference in ATF +4 is different enough I won't won't nor recommend using in in a ATF+4 application.