Are there any good aftermarket MAF sensors?

[researcher]

Yeah, I have some, another brand though. Have to dig up a tamper proof torx. I think I have one here somewhere.
BTY had to buy new magnets for the 4T65E trans pan. Lost the #$%^&ing accumulator gasket too. Just ordered another one of those. Don't ask me how I lose this stuff, I have no Idea, scatter brained, I guess!
Gasket was only $3.33 but still.
I'm still having another issue ATM though with this high idle, and when the high idle happens, I get a late shift.
It started happening again today.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...-too-must-have-taken-a-fit-its-ok-now.374424/

you know I have the same luck.. but it's the 10mm socket! Like losing socks in the dryer!

I'll check out your other post..

 

[nthach]

Delphi is the OEM for a lot of car makers. That's the one I always order for electronic parts like sensors and ICMs.

In the past, this was true. Delphi was a spin off from GM and their former parts brands(Delco Electronics, Harrison Radiator, Packard Wire, Delco-Remy, Rochester Products). Then GM bought back Rochester, Harrison is part of Mahle and Borg-Warner bought out the rest of Delphi. Packard Wire became Aptiv.

BW spun off the Delphi aftermarket business as its own company recently.

 

[Paco Pena]

I've picked up a few for Toyotas at the wrecker. OE and cheap.

Paco

 

[mrbreezeet1]

I've picked up a few for Toyotas at the wrecker. OE and cheap.

Paco

A lot of people do that say for GM coil packs and ICM's.

 

[GMBoy]

I've got a 2001 Ford Ranger with the 4.0L. Apparently Ford no longer makes a replacement MAF sensor for this application. Are there any good replacements out there? I see NTK, Delphi, Cardone, to name a few on RA. RA also has a very expensive replacement from WVE which I've never heard of. Advanced Auto offers their Carquest brand.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Reggie

Of those 3 you list the only one that gave me the most trouble was WVE. I had tried them on 3 different parts - MAF, MAP and temp sensor and everything failed. Sent back to RA for refunds. The 2nd most troublesome brand in your list is Cardone. Had no issues with Delphi or NTK part yet. If you go local I have had good luck with Autozone MAF sensors at my shop - replaced a few and no come backs to date. Wells or SMP is the maker of Autozone electrical/sensor parts depending on application. If you go local I recommend Autozone if you go RA I recommend the Delphi.

 

[D60]

I put an SKP MAF on a '00 Taco 3.4. It's been working for a couple years now and restored a bunch of power. The 3.4 V6 seems quite sensitive about a flakey MAF

That said, a sample of one may prove nothing but luck.....

 

[paulo57509]

how does a maf sensor go bad? Just curious

I guess if you removed it to clean it, then dropped it, and then stepped on it?

I don't know if these are still used, but cleaning a Karman Vortex type MAF will destroy it.

 

[michaelluscher]

I don't know if these are still used, but cleaning a Karman Vortex type MAF will destroy it.

That's mostly pre 1995 Toyota/Lexus, and a few rare Euro applications

I forgot about those, interesting principle they worked on

 

[mrbreezeet1]

Of those 3 you list the only one that gave me the most trouble was WVE. I had tried them on 3 different parts - MAF, MAP and temp sensor and everything failed. Sent back to RA for refunds. The 2nd most troublesome brand in your list is Cardone. Had no issues with Delphi or NTK part yet. If you go local I have had good luck with Autozone MAF sensors at my shop - replaced a few and no come backs to date. Wells or SMP is the maker of Autozone electrical/sensor parts depending on application. If you go local I recommend Autozone if you go RA I recommend the Delphi.

l just got a Duralast TPS because l wanted it today. We'll see how it holds up, didn't install it yet. LT warranty.
Duralast is said to be made by NTK/Wells.

 

[michaelluscher]

This seems a little expensive, but it's an option
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2648127790...yBhl2_3Q4y&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

BSE 220068M seems to be who Ford was using for their remans, about $129 including core

The WVE looks the closest to OE, but I don't know who was making MAFs for Ford in that time period
They look GM/Delphi(ish)
But I would trust NGK/NTK, because they made the HEGO/Oxygen sensors for Ford at that time

Both have 3/36k warranties on RockAuto

Roll the dice, let us know how it works out

It's times like this that send me to eBay looking for NOS

 

[mrbreezeet1]

Double post

 

[mrbreezeet1]

 

[nthach]

But I would trust NGK/NTK, because they made the HEGO/Oxygen sensors for Ford at that time

I pushed Bosch out of the Ranger I was working on. Had both Ford and Bosch logos and PNs. Not shocked if Ford used NTK on some models.

 

[mrbreezeet1]

l just got a Duralast TPS because l wanted it today. We'll see how it holds up, didn't install it yet. LT warranty.
Duralast is said to be made by NTK/Wells.

Still having Issues!
2001 Grand Prix with a 3.1-liter motor, started idling high after good and warmed up. No codes at the time. When motor would idle too high, 4T65E trans would shift super late under light throttle. About 25 MPH and 2,500 RPM before it would hit 2nd. gear. Was OK the next day.
3rd. day, high idle and late shift again!
This time the check engine light did come on. Code P0121. Scanner TPS angle percentage at idle shows 0 sometimes, and sometimes 0.39% and ~ 100% at WOT. One time while sitting there idling fine, ~ 700 RPM, all at once the idle kicked up to ~1,300 RPM all by itself. I looked at the scanner, now TPS angle percentage went up to 2.75%.
From my scanner readings, it looks to me like the sensor IS receiving the 5V reference, and my ground is good, and my reference voltage is changing and being sent back to the ECM. My voltmeter is at my buddy's garage right now, so I could not do any voltage testing at the TPS connector.
I'm ready to take a chance based on my findings, and just install a new TPS.
Still having Issues! Already replaced TPS.
SOS if not worse, now with a Pending P0101 code.

Can anyone of you all look at these screen shots from Torque Pro and see if you all can make any sense of any of them?

RPM TPS% Temp and MAF are shown. All RPM readings are with accelerator pedal at rest.
KOEO with accelerator pedal at rest TPS % Is 0%.
KOEO with accelerator pedal at WOT TPS % Is 100%
I have a DVOM meter now too.

 

[MSCH]

Still having Issues!
2001 Grand Prix with a 3.1-liter motor, started idling high after good and warmed up. No codes at the time. When motor would idle too high, 4T65E trans would shift super late under light throttle. About 25 MPH and 2,500 RPM before it would hit 2nd. gear. Was OK the next day.
3rd. day, high idle and late shift again!
This time the check engine light did come on. Code P0121. Scanner TPS angle percentage at idle shows 0 sometimes, and sometimes 0.39% and ~ 100% at WOT. One time while sitting there idling fine, ~ 700 RPM, all at once the idle kicked up to ~1,300 RPM all by itself. I looked at the scanner, now TPS angle percentage went up to 2.75%.
From my scanner readings, it looks to me like the sensor IS receiving the 5V reference, and my ground is good, and my reference voltage is changing and being sent back to the ECM. My voltmeter is at my buddy's garage right now, so I could not do any voltage testing at the TPS connector.
I'm ready to take a chance based on my findings, and just install a new TPS.
Still having Issues! Already replaced TPS.
SOS if not worse, now with a Pending P0101 code.

Can anyone of you all look at these screen shots from Torque Pro and see if you all can make any sense of any of them?

RPM TPS% Temp and MAF are shown. All RPM readings are with accelerator pedal at rest.
KOEO with accelerator pedal at rest TPS % Is 0%.
KOEO with accelerator pedal at WOT TPS % Is 100%
I have a DVOM meter now too.

if you are getting varying TPS readings and you aren't touching the throttle pedal,it sounds like you are on the right track.
you wanna talk about an electronic part that is subject to wear, the TPS is one of those,

 

[mrbreezeet1]

if you are getting varying TPS readings and you aren't touching the throttle pedal, it sounds like you are on the right track.
you wanna talk about an electronic part that is subject to wear, the TPS is one of those,

Right! Thats what I thought too! Because I got the 2.75 % throttle % reading when the idle kicked up to ~1300 RPM without me touching the throttle pedal.
However, with KOEO with accelerator pedal at rest TPS % Is 0%.
And KOEO with accelerator pedal at WOT TPS % Is 100%.
This is what gets me.
Plus, now I have the pending DTC P0101?
I did clean the MAF sensor yesterday but didn't reinstall it yet, but TBH I don't think that's the answer.

 

[MSCH]

Right! Thats what I thought too! Because I got the 2.75 % throttle % reading when the idle kicked up to ~1300 RPM without me touching the throttle pedal.
However, with KOEO with accelerator pedal at rest TPS % Is 0%.
And KOEO with accelerator pedal at WOT TPS % Is 100%.
This is what gets me.
Plus, now I have the pending DTC P0101?
I did clean the MAF sensor yesterday but didn't reinstall it yet, but TBH I don't think that's the answer.

unless you have a scantool with a graphing function it is going to be difficult to read any sensor that is within range but has an erratic signal . a voltage signal by itself is too static to see the changes... so a TPS is cheap, try replacing it.

 

[mrbreezeet1]

I have this scanner coming.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098TDC7F...2663G49D&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 

[mrbreezeet1]

unless you have a scantool with a graphing function it is going to be difficult to read any sensor that is within range but has an erratic signal. a voltage signal by itself is too static to see the changes... so a TPS is cheap, try replacing it.

I'm ready to take a chance based on my findings, and just install a new TPS.
Still having Issues! Already replaced TPS.
SOS if not worse, now with a Pending P0101 code.

Sorry for the confusion, sometimes my writing skills are not great.
I quoted part of my post from above.
Already replaced. unless the new one is no good. Used An Duralast said from Autozone because I wanted it yesterday.

 

[mrbreezeet1]

Sorry for the confusion, sometimes my writing skills are not great.
I quoted part of my post from above.
Already replaced. unless the new one is no good. Used An Duralast said from Autozone because I wanted it yesterday.

I'm thinking now that I might be Intermittently losing my A circuit return black wire terminal "B" back to the ECM. Going to inspect my wiring next.