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No, not mind control. but close enough
http://www.dailytech.com/Leaked+Docs+Sho...rticle21915.htm

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Apple employees ordered to stick to a careful script to avoid making sensitive customers feel inferior or sad

Apple, Inc. (AAPL) has a unique problem on its hands -- it gets scores more applicants at its retail stores than it wants to hire, all with virtually no job advertising. A recent Wall Street Journal piece describes how Apple is "flooded with applicants" and thus can be very particular about who it hires.

The company typically subjects applicants to multiple interviews, which is a common practice in the professional setting, but a rarity in retail. The lucky few who get hired must shadow experienced employees for weeks. During this preparatory period, the employees are forbidden to speak with customers.

Overall the wages of the employees are competitive, falling between $9 to $15 USD per hour. "Geniuses" -- Apple's tech support specialists -- make up to $30 USD per hour. However, there's little room for advancement -- few employees move up into Apple's corporate management, unlike many retail firms.

There's also little room for independent thought, the WSJ article suggests. It says that Apple employees are forced to speak to customers in code. For example they are trained to say "as it turns out", rather than "unfortunately", when explaining to customers why a problem couldn't be solved.

Employees are also forbidden to discuss known technical glitches -- be they hardware or software. And should they dare write anything -- good, bad, or indifferent -- about their employer online, that's grounds for instant termination. Arriving six minutes late in three shifts in six months is also grounds for termination.

The tightly codified of employee-customer interactions effectively transforms the employees into carefully preened robotic sentinels whose sole goal is to engage the customer while avoiding upsetting them or making them feel inferior. Employees are prepared by memorizing responses to give to "emotional" customers. And employees are strictly forbidden to correct customers if they mispronounce product names, for fear the customers might feel patronized.

But the heart of Apple's scripted show is in its "Steps of Service", given by the acronym "APPLE". It writes:

Approach customers with a personalized warm welcome.
Probe politely to understand all the customer's needs.
Present a solution for the customer to take home today.
Listen for and resolve any issues or concerns.
End with a fond farewell and an invitation to return.

The approach sounds somewhat cold and lifeless, but it appears to work amazingly well. While the retail market slumped 2.4 percent, Apple's retail sales grew 70 percent. Retail now accounts for 15 percent of the company's revenue --$11.7B USD. Compare that to Best Buy Comp., Inc. (BBY) which in 2011 posted sales revenue of $50.3B USD. The difference? Best Buy required over 12 times the stores for less than 5 times the profit (Best Buy has over 4,000 stores, Apple has only 326).

Ron Johnson largely drove Apple’s retail success. Johnson, however, will depart on November 1 to serve as president and chief executive officer at retailer J.C. Penney (JCP). Mr. Johnson started as a Target Corp. (TGT) merchandising executive, where he worked for 15 years. Apple chief executive and co-founder Steven P. Jobs reportedly personally convinced Mr. Johnson to come to Apple. Now he's likely going to be sorely regretting his departure.

While he leaves much of the planning to others, Mr. Jobs reportedly is obsessed with the success of Apple retail. Describes the report, "When the CEO grappled with a liver transplant two years ago, a person who visited him at the time said Mr. Jobs was poring over blueprints for future Apple stores."

The report also comes at a time when Apple's employees are reportedly fighting to be allowed to unionize.



I like how they forbid to ever say anything bad about their products. Even I can. I explained the Sandy Bridge problem to people who were hesitant to buy anything intel because of it, in terms they would understand, so they would know that it's fixed now. They also forbid their "Geniuses" to discuss that apple products have malware. Such honesty. I hate apple more and more with every article I see on them.
 
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So, let's see...be punctual, avoid criticising, avoid giving wrong information, be mindful of the customer's feelings?

Sure wish more companies trained their service folks this way...
 
Or it could be the product just sells itself.

I went to the Apple Store because my wife wanted an iPad. I asked, they didn't have any, but suggested I order on-line.

I wonder why they even need the store given they sell everyone they make. The darn thing ships via FedEx directly from the factory in China to my home.

The Apple Store seems more like a video arcade where you can order a game and have it delivered to your home. I didn't seem much actually leave the store. But it was packed with folks playing with the hardware.
 
I don't have a problem with this at all.

How many stores have you gone to and met with someone who acts either:

A. Comes across as being indifferent

B. Comes across as being superior

The fact of the matter is, people today do not possess the same basic manors as in the past. My brother who is now 20 has a serious fear of actually talking to someone on the phone. -its all done in txt or some form of PC chat. He got called for an interview and pratically had a panic atack. -He is not alone in this.

For me (now in my early 30s) IO feel I have an advantage in that light -as I was young enough to 'jump on board the internet/cell phone wagon *Yet* I was trained aggressively in verbal and face to face skills very young.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
No, not mind control. but close enough
http://www.dailytech.com/Leaked+Docs+Sho...rticle21915.htm



I like how they forbid to ever say anything bad about their products. Even I can. I explained the Sandy Bridge problem to people who were hesitant to buy anything intel because of it, in terms they would understand, so they would know that it's fixed now. They also forbid their "Geniuses" to discuss that apple products have malware. Such honesty. I hate apple more and more with every article I see on them.



have you ever been to a Ford dealership?! Despite their TSB and thousands of complaints about the Tremec 3650 transmission- The response I get (when I was inquireing about the KNOWN "1-2 clunk") is that "who ever owned the car before you probably beat on it"
-This is a muscle car with 10,000 miles that looks/drives/ smells showroom new.
C'mon
No employee -on the record- will say anything bad about their products...
 
I wish I could get away with that. The law here says an employee is allowed to be 15 minutes late in the morning and after lunch as often as he wants.
 
Yes, employee training is good, and many places will train them the same way. Avoid offending and that good stuff. We do the same stuff at "Best Buy" (quotes because sometimes I'm tempted to use the bad moniker, because I hate the company). But if I go into a store and talk to a salesperson, I want personality, not a robot. I've been to the apple store, I go there now and again just to look around. the salespeople are the most generic, creepily happy, (You know, smiling constantly, just a sense of wrongness from it all) people I've ever seen in my life.

I asked one once about mac malware, and he straightfaced told me that none exists. I was polite, but I was laughing inside. So, rather than preventing spreading misinformation, they are LYING. By saying that there are no issues (even well known ones, yellow screen imacs, macbooks pros locking under load, etc) when there are. Every customer service ompany that I've dealt with in regards to something like that, has at least been upfront and honest about certain issues. I know we are at work. Honesty is the best policy.

EDIT: ford dealership? Yes, I asked a guy at one once about the well known issue of the rear end whining in LSD Expeditions, and he told me that it is a well known issue, and if it starts a new clutch pack will probably be required, but try changing the diff fluid with fresh 75W-140, and get either Ford/GM LSD additive.

Turns out our expy doesn't have a LSD, but he was very honest about it, and I definitely appreciate that.
 
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Originally Posted By: Nick R
I like how they forbid to ever say anything bad about their products. Even I can.

You work for a retail chain, not a manufacturer. There's a difference.

But as far as the article itself, sounds fairly normal to me. I'm no Apple fan (wife is), but what they're doing makes a lot of sense from a business perspective. At the same time, it doesn't sound like they're doing any harm to their employees.
 
Ah, the weekly, or is it bi-weekly? Apple topic. Must be that time of the month again.

You forgot to mention how Apple abducts and holds hostage the children of insolent employees.

You want to talk to insidious robots? Go call PayPal CS, pal.
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I am thankful for apple; I do not have to mess with my mother's computer. She can call Apple too, and get a knowledgeable fluent English speaker for tech support.
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
I am thankful for apple; I do not have to mess with my mother's computer. She can call Apple too, and get a knowledgeable fluent English speaker for tech support.



I will admit that by and large apples support is very good. I just wish they would be allowed to acknowledge known issues. the yellow imac screen for example, was very well known for several years. Apple denied that it existed, and would deny fixing it under warranty because it didn't exist.
 
Nick, you seem like a nice guy and I know you work for Best Buy. You may also know that I'm not the greatest apple fan, though I do appreciate the beautiful styling their products have.

That being said, when I walk into an apple store, I'm greeted promptly and then left alone. If I need help or have a question, I'm served quickly and courteously. When I walk into BB (any best buy I've ever been to) I'm practically molested by AT LEAST 5 rabid kids who have some kind of complex and think that they're god's gift to my (presumed) ignorant self. I avoid best buy because of that, but will peruse an apple store just to check things out, even if I have no intention of buying anything.

The apple employees dress like hipsters, but they are professional, polite, and approachable. The best buy employees dress professionally, and apparently that makes them think their opinion is somehow better informed than any other living being.
 
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Nick, you seem like a nice guy and I know you work for Best Buy. You may also know that I'm not the greatest apple fan, though I do appreciate the beautiful styling their products have.

That being said, when I walk into an apple store, I'm greeted promptly and then left alone. If I need help or have a question, I'm served quickly and courteously. When I walk into BB (any best buy I've ever been to) I'm practically molested by AT LEAST 5 rabid kids who have some kind of complex and think that they're god's gift to my (presumed) ignorant self. I avoid best buy because of that, but will peruse an apple store just to check things out, even if I have no intention of buying anything.

The apple employees dress like hipsters, but they are professional, polite, and approachable. The best buy employees dress professionally, and apparently that makes them think their opinion is somehow better informed than any other living being.


I can understand that definitely. the problem is with Best buy, because I work for it, but other than for a paycheck, I don't really have any loyalty to the company itself. anyway the problem is, we are required to "contact" a customer within 30 seconds of entering the department. If we don't contact someone, we WILL be yelled at. There are cameras in the store directly linked to the District/Territory/Corporate computers. At any time, they can watch to see what we are doing.

Believe me, I understand how annoying it is to get practically attacked upon entering the store, but just remember they are only doing it because it is their job. And you also have to remember that 98% of the people that walk in the store have absolutely no clue about anything electronic. That isn't being mean, it's fact. Best buy isn't and never has been a store for people who know what they are doing, and neither is geek squad. People like you, and me use newegg, and don't really need advice for computers. But for some things, like TVs, I have to defer to our Home theater team, because they know a [censored] of a lot more about that stuff than I do.
 
thanks for the article nick. it looks like apple retail is the best store to go to if you want apple products.
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Originally Posted By: Nick R
we are required to "contact" a customer within 30 seconds of entering the department. If we don't contact someone, we WILL be yelled at. There are cameras in the store directly linked to the District/Territory/Corporate computers. At any time, they can watch to see what we are doing.


So you know how it is to work for an evil company and should be more understanding and accepting of the "rules."
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Believe me, I understand how annoying it is to get practically attacked upon entering the store, but just remember they are only doing it because it is their job.


Actually, at our local Best Buy branches, most have been shut down and gone out of business, the pimply teen employees hide out in chit-chat clusters while collectively ignoring the customers-which I much prefer, by the way.

When I really do get approached by an employee I decline help and say, "I'm just here to play with your cameras. I'll buy online from [insert any place other than Best Buy] tonight."
 
Originally Posted By: Volvo_ST1
Originally Posted By: Nick R
we are required to "contact" a customer within 30 seconds of entering the department. If we don't contact someone, we WILL be yelled at. There are cameras in the store directly linked to the District/Territory/Corporate computers. At any time, they can watch to see what we are doing.


So you know how it is to work for an evil company and should be more understanding and accepting of the "rules."
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Believe me, I understand how annoying it is to get practically attacked upon entering the store, but just remember they are only doing it because it is their job.


Actually, at our local Best Buy branches, most have been shut down and gone out of business, the pimply teen employees hide out in chit-chat clusters while collectively ignoring the customers-which I much prefer, by the way.

When I really do get approached by an employee I decline help and say, "I'm just here to play with your cameras. I'll buy online from [insert any place other than Best Buy] tonight."


I at least give them a chance to match the price with shipping of course. If they decline, it's on them. If I touch the merchandise in the store, I give them a chance to match the price I have for that item.

But yeah, stores like Best Buy are places where I go to touch the merchandise, I admit it.
 
Bottom line, it's about the money, and how to make it.


Employees are a tool for that, nothing more, nothing less.


It's up to the company to make those decisions. Pretty simple.


(and yes, I work in retail, sadly)
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
But if I go into a store and talk to a salesperson, I want personality, not a robot. I've been to the apple store, I go there now and again just to look around. the salespeople are the most generic, creepily happy, (You know, smiling constantly, just a sense of wrongness from it all) people I've ever seen in my life.


I think most customers prefer a happy employee that has as little "personality" as possible. I'm sure car salesman is on the opposite end of the extreme, and I don't want to shop a simple electronics like I do with a used car.
 
Originally Posted By: needsducktape


have you ever been to a Ford dealership?! Despite their TSB and thousands of complaints about the Tremec 3650 transmission- The response I get (when I was inquireing about the KNOWN "1-2 clunk") is that "who ever owned the car before you probably beat on it"
-This is a muscle car with 10,000 miles that looks/drives/ smells showroom new.
C'mon
No employee -on the record- will say anything bad about their products...


What about: "you're the first person who has ever made that complaint."
 
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